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nige2000
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Re: MQN

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Aleg

bottom of page 232

try a retest with some fast moving bass tracks
sure im been picky but if 100000 has it sounding more accurate why shouldnt R1.1
r1.1 has everything else better
i think if bass is fixed it will also improve sq overall again

dont know if its wise using drc while testing versions
cannot set a control that way id imagine
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Re: MQN

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nige2000 wrote:OK tried r1. 1 and 100000

Aleg right r1.1 is a new base version
But JC right too bass control is not as good as 100000
Will need to be tightened up

Is r1.1 a halfway house between 448 and 2048
lol, JC was commenting on avx2 v1 100000 and said it's bass was weak.

Can't find any comment on R1.1

Have ended up with sample size of 1024 for all formats

24 bit version - 16 bit is 4096 bytes and 24 bit is 6144 bytes

32 bit version - 16 bit is 4096 bytes and 24 is 8192 bytes

The period changes to allow the correct amount of data to be passed.
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Aleg
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Re: MQN

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nige2000 wrote:Aleg

bottom of page 232

try a retest with some fast moving bass tracks
sure im been picky but if 100000 has it sounding more accurate why shouldnt R1.1
r1.1 has everything else better
i think if bass is fixed it will also improve sq overall again

dont know if its wise using drc while testing versions
cannot set a control that way id imagine
I found JC's remark about bass quality in R1.1. Thanks for that.

My DRC-music is convolved offline, so it is a fixed control point and no realtime convolving involved.

It does however allow me to eliminate disturbing room factors that are not due to the music or due to the playback device. It does give me a clearer view on the music and playback device itself.

Cheers

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Re: MQN

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sbgk wrote:
nige2000 wrote:OK tried r1. 1 and 100000

Aleg right r1.1 is a new base version
But JC right too bass control is not as good as 100000
Will need to be tightened up

Is r1.1 a halfway house between 448 and 2048
lol, JC was commenting on avx2 v1 100000 and said it's bass was weak.

Can't find any comment on R1.1

Gordon

Inside that last post on page 232 JC says:
r1.1 works! music itself not better than "avx2 v1 win8.1-r2 100000"
resolution is a lot higher. it wins in bass quantity. not better in bass quality
If one agrees each has to decide for himself

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Re: MQN

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That I can play highres files only with the 200000 version, is this because of my dac? Or because of my pc? May be a stupid question but I am not a technical person.
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Re: MQN

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With R1.1 I needed to turn down my bass amps a tad, quality seems fine. The amps and bass drivers go up to 150hz.
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Re: MQN

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sbgk wrote:
nige2000 wrote:OK tried r1. 1 and 100000

Aleg right r1.1 is a new base version
But JC right too bass control is not as good as 100000
Will need to be tightened up

Is r1.1 a halfway house between 448 and 2048
lol, JC was commenting on avx2 v1 100000 and said it's bass was weak.

Can't find any comment on R1.1

Have ended up with sample size of 1024 for all formats

24 bit version - 16 bit is 4096 bytes and 24 bit is 6144 bytes

32 bit version - 16 bit is 4096 bytes and 24 is 8192 bytes

The period changes to allow the correct amount of data to be passed.
Weird that
I knew it didn't sound like a 2048 or a 448

I'd imagine in a perfect situation it should be the lowest possible
Would be curious to what 448 and below would do

Is it a real pita to lower further?

I know we should be getting on with K'S but still rather curious about this
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Re: MQN

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sbgk wrote: lol, JC was commenting on avx2 v1 100000 and said it's bass was weak.
thought bass layer is strong enough to make treble richer. from listening to r2, thought treble could be x5 richer in my 2012. only x3. still very very good. musicality is best element in this version. not heard better from older versions
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Re: MQN

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JC
Much seem Right with R1.1 As you say not balanced like 100000
Think if bass is fixed will fix balance

Why not mod r2 instead of r1
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Re: MQN

Post by jesuscheung »

nige2000 wrote:JC
Much seem Right with R1.1 As you say not balanced like 100000
Think if bass is fixed will fix balance

Why not mod r2 instead of r1
already did (but corrupted...). R2 has better timing. but digital tune.... hmm...
my r1 has true analog tune.

actually the real reason is...
when a lot of things running, i.e. when jitters come, R2 compresses sound.
in R1, when jitter comes, R1 blurs the sound.

compressed=digital sound=bad.
i can tolerate blurred sound of R1.

might change my mind anytime. don't know enough
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