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tony
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Re: MQN

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Yes!!!! 24bit playing now. Now the fun can start. Working on the zuma using core r2 will give it a try now on my laptop using 8.1
Many thanks Gordon.

Working fine on laptop and playing 16bit also. Too late for me tonight to do much testing but the ray brown trio track sounded very nice to me.

Seems like one of those great breakthrough days with Nigel's work on the ram power on the buildanaudiopc thread. It might cost some of us a few mobo's if we try following suit.
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Re: MQN

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tony wrote:Yes!!!! 24bit playing now. Now the fun can start. Working on the zuma using core r2 will give it a try now on my laptop using 8.1
Many thanks Gordon.

Working fine on laptop and playing 16bit also. Too late for me tonight to do much testing but the ray brown trio track sounded very nice to me.
phew, glad it's working for someone, have gone back to sse4 and shall do a tweaked win 8.1 version. did a comparison with jlp and was surprised at how bad jlp sounded, very muddy.
tony
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Re: MQN

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sbgk wrote:
tony wrote:Yes!!!! 24bit playing now. Now the fun can start. Working on the zuma using core r2 will give it a try now on my laptop using 8.1
Many thanks Gordon.

Working fine on laptop and playing 16bit also. Too late for me tonight to do much testing but the ray brown trio track sounded very nice to me.
phew, glad it's working for someone, have gone back to sse4 and shall do a tweaked win 8.1 version. did a comparison with jlp and was surprised at how bad jlp sounded, very muddy.
If it works for me the guru's will have no problem. Well a lot of us have come to that conclusion so far with JLP. Sorry I don't understand the programming bits but maybe KS just doesn't cut it. Are you going to try and MQNise JLP? Not sure if that is possible. No doubt a lot of people would like to use the LMS interface as it has always been popular on the various forums.
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Re: MQN

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Even new version doesn't do 24/96 for me. It would start, beautiful sound, but after 15-20 sec, crackling. It does play 16/44.
I did download hirez control too.
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Aleg
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Re: MQN

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tony wrote: If it works for me the guru's will have no problem. ....

Tony
Don't forget that the latest 2.73 versions only worked for a few people that were all using (I believe) the Amanero based DAC. So those versions were no longer generally usable.

So I hope Gordon can find the way back to what is working for everybody.

Cheers

Aleg
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Re: MQN

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sbgk wrote:...
the development choices that were made for MQn were designed to avoid that sound, so guess it's tailored to my system to an extent, but I have other high quality sources to compare it with so I know how my system behaves.
Or it just comes down to personal preferences. I have heared other high end systems too, that were very, very good in what they did, but it didn't rock my boat.

I would preferably see a player that's not tweaked to a certain type sound character or tonality, but tries to keep in neutral waters.

The most neutral IMHO is just to present the music with the most details, the most transparency and clarity and let the tonal character of the owners hifi gear determine how it will sound in the end.

Cheers

Aleg
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sbgk
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Re: MQN

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Aleg wrote:
sbgk wrote:...
the development choices that were made for MQn were designed to avoid that sound, so guess it's tailored to my system to an extent, but I have other high quality sources to compare it with so I know how my system behaves.
Or it just comes down to personal preferences. I have heared other high end systems too, that were very, very good in what they did, but it didn't rock my boat.

I would preferably see a player that's not tweaked to a certain type sound character or tonality, but tries to keep in neutral waters.

The most neutral IMHO is just to present the music with the most details, the most transparency and clarity and let the tonal character of the owners hifi gear determine how it will sound in the end.

Cheers

Aleg
the sound I get with realtime is also the sound that some of the less optimal settings produce so I guess that's why I equate it with being a poorer quality sound. At least you have a way of getting the sound you like.
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Re: MQN

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tony wrote:
sbgk wrote:
tony wrote:Yes!!!! 24bit playing now. Now the fun can start. Working on the zuma using core r2 will give it a try now on my laptop using 8.1
Many thanks Gordon.

Working fine on laptop and playing 16bit also. Too late for me tonight to do much testing but the ray brown trio track sounded very nice to me.
phew, glad it's working for someone, have gone back to sse4 and shall do a tweaked win 8.1 version. did a comparison with jlp and was surprised at how bad jlp sounded, very muddy.
If it works for me the guru's will have no problem. Well a lot of us have come to that conclusion so far with JLP. Sorry I don't understand the programming bits but maybe KS just doesn't cut it. Are you going to try and MQNise JLP? Not sure if that is possible. No doubt a lot of people would like to use the LMS interface as it has always been popular on the various forums.
wasapi is a wrapper for ks, so ks is not the problem, it is either portaudio code or the squeezelite streaming code or a combination of both, also lms seems to affect the sound.
Aleg
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Re: MQN

Post by Aleg »

sbgk wrote:
Aleg wrote:
Or it just comes down to personal preferences. I have heared other high end systems too, that were very, very good in what they did, but it didn't rock my boat.

I would preferably see a player that's not tweaked to a certain type sound character or tonality, but tries to keep in neutral waters.

The most neutral IMHO is just to present the music with the most details, the most transparency and clarity and let the tonal character of the owners hifi gear determine how it will sound in the end.

Cheers

Aleg
the sound I get with realtime is also the sound that some of the less optimal settings produce so I guess that's why I equate it with being a poorer quality sound. At least you have a way of getting the sound you like.
And that's why I say you should try to keep it neutral, because different people have different opinions on what is optimal and better quality. One man's trash is another man's treasure and vice versa, so to speak.

That's why I was asking a few pages back if there could be found an objective reference point, so one could keep a developer's personal preferences out of the picture. Unfortunately nobody took it up for discussion.

Cheers

Aleg
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tony
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Re: MQN

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Aleg wrote:
tony wrote: If it works for me the guru's will have no problem. ....

Tony
Don't forget that the latest 2.73 versions only worked for a few people that were all using (I believe) the Amanero based DAC. So those versions were no longer generally usable.

So I hope Gordon can find the way back to what is working for everybody.

Cheers

Aleg
Missed that! Hopefully Gordon can apply that easily to some of the 2.71's and 2.66's.

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