Wadia 151 PowerDAC: One of those WTF moments
Wadia 151 PowerDAC: One of those WTF moments
I borrowed a Wadia 151 PowerDAC from Cloney yesterday. It's a tiny little thing that packages up a DAC and a 25-ish watt Class D amp with a Wadia badge on the front, and my intention is to use it in a small and simple system beside the TV in the kitchen: plug in my NUC, some speakers, Bob's your uncle.
Not actually having any speakers in the kitchen currently, I decided to see how it would fare in the main system. I took the USB cable from my printer, plugged my entirely-not-modified-for-sonic-excellence laptop into the USB input and connected the Kharmas. I used XBMC along with its nice interface of album art, etc, to play some FLAC files.
You know where this is going so I won't labour the point, but I seriously spent the rest of the evening wondering why the hell we spend so much money on exotica. Was it as good as the Wadia CDP/Graaf valves combo? In many ways yes, in many ways no, in some ways better. All told, if you'd stuck it in a shiny box and told me it was 10k I wouldn't have disbelieved you at all. Sure, it lacked a bit of air and a little midrange valvey magic, images were a little smaller, but the bass was better and more solid, and the whole sound was so balanced you'd be hard pushed to criticise it. Nothing jumped out at me, nothing sounded excessively anything, it was all just good and solid and accomplished, and I listened for quite some time. The spec says 25w but I don't believe that -- I had no problems with power at any point.
I'm a bit rattled to be honest, and starting to doubt my ears and my sanity. Admittedly I didn't listen to any classical because I haven't ripped any classical discs yet, so maybe I'll hear all its deficiencies in due course. For now, though, I'm dead impressed.
Not actually having any speakers in the kitchen currently, I decided to see how it would fare in the main system. I took the USB cable from my printer, plugged my entirely-not-modified-for-sonic-excellence laptop into the USB input and connected the Kharmas. I used XBMC along with its nice interface of album art, etc, to play some FLAC files.
You know where this is going so I won't labour the point, but I seriously spent the rest of the evening wondering why the hell we spend so much money on exotica. Was it as good as the Wadia CDP/Graaf valves combo? In many ways yes, in many ways no, in some ways better. All told, if you'd stuck it in a shiny box and told me it was 10k I wouldn't have disbelieved you at all. Sure, it lacked a bit of air and a little midrange valvey magic, images were a little smaller, but the bass was better and more solid, and the whole sound was so balanced you'd be hard pushed to criticise it. Nothing jumped out at me, nothing sounded excessively anything, it was all just good and solid and accomplished, and I listened for quite some time. The spec says 25w but I don't believe that -- I had no problems with power at any point.
I'm a bit rattled to be honest, and starting to doubt my ears and my sanity. Admittedly I didn't listen to any classical because I haven't ripped any classical discs yet, so maybe I'll hear all its deficiencies in due course. For now, though, I'm dead impressed.
Nerdcave: ...is no more!
Sitting Room: Wadia 581SE - Rega Planar 3/AT VM95ML & SH - Bluesound Node II - Copland CSA 100 - Audioplan Kontrast 3
Kitchen: WiiM Pro - Wadia 151 - B&W 685s2

Sitting Room: Wadia 581SE - Rega Planar 3/AT VM95ML & SH - Bluesound Node II - Copland CSA 100 - Audioplan Kontrast 3
Kitchen: WiiM Pro - Wadia 151 - B&W 685s2
Re: Wadia 151 PowerDAC: One of those WTF moments
Oh dear
Don't look into the rabbit hole
Run..... run.....
Don't look into the rabbit hole
Run..... run.....
sd card player, modded soekris dac, class a lifepo4 amp or gb class a/b amp, diy open baffle speakers based on project audio mundorf trio 10's
Re: Wadia 151 PowerDAC: One of those WTF moments
Don't worry, the whole point here is to keep it simple. You remember what that is, dontcha Nige?? :)
Nerdcave: ...is no more!
Sitting Room: Wadia 581SE - Rega Planar 3/AT VM95ML & SH - Bluesound Node II - Copland CSA 100 - Audioplan Kontrast 3
Kitchen: WiiM Pro - Wadia 151 - B&W 685s2

Sitting Room: Wadia 581SE - Rega Planar 3/AT VM95ML & SH - Bluesound Node II - Copland CSA 100 - Audioplan Kontrast 3
Kitchen: WiiM Pro - Wadia 151 - B&W 685s2
Re: Wadia 151 PowerDAC: One of those WTF moments
What you mean
My audio system is simple
Simple to turn on
Simple to use
Simple Good sound
It's the 18 mts of spare time testing and building that was the complication
Anyway in pc audio their are many many ways to get increase in sq with little or no cost over just using z laptop :)
My audio system is simple
Simple to turn on
Simple to use
Simple Good sound
It's the 18 mts of spare time testing and building that was the complication
Anyway in pc audio their are many many ways to get increase in sq with little or no cost over just using z laptop :)
Last edited by nige2000 on Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
sd card player, modded soekris dac, class a lifepo4 amp or gb class a/b amp, diy open baffle speakers based on project audio mundorf trio 10's
Re: Wadia 151 PowerDAC: One of those WTF moments
But here's the thing: I don't believe these differences are all that meaningful. That's the point of this thread, really. The more I hear the more I think non-speaker components sound more similar than different. Maybe I'm becoming the personification of the wam... Shudder!
Nerdcave: ...is no more!
Sitting Room: Wadia 581SE - Rega Planar 3/AT VM95ML & SH - Bluesound Node II - Copland CSA 100 - Audioplan Kontrast 3
Kitchen: WiiM Pro - Wadia 151 - B&W 685s2

Sitting Room: Wadia 581SE - Rega Planar 3/AT VM95ML & SH - Bluesound Node II - Copland CSA 100 - Audioplan Kontrast 3
Kitchen: WiiM Pro - Wadia 151 - B&W 685s2
Re: Wadia 151 PowerDAC: One of those WTF moments
well i was thinking about that statement a whileDiapason wrote:But here's the thing: I don't believe these differences are all that meaningful. That's the point of this thread, really. The more I hear the more I think non-speaker components sound more similar than different. Maybe I'm becoming the personification of the wam... Shudder!
coz i wasn't sure how to reply to the "non speaker components sound similar" and " I don't believe these differences are all that meaningful" thing
well i suppose if it doesn't matter,
all sounds more or less the same
you could downgrade without sq loss :)
anyway said it before if disbelievers want to come down hear my system id be happy to host
im sure i could rig up some test comparisons
though this is probably a little sidetracked from the Wadia 151 not sounding have bad thread
sd card player, modded soekris dac, class a lifepo4 amp or gb class a/b amp, diy open baffle speakers based on project audio mundorf trio 10's
Re: Wadia 151 PowerDAC: One of those WTF moments
Haha, maybe I'm just losing the plot -- not getting enough sleep!
Nerdcave: ...is no more!
Sitting Room: Wadia 581SE - Rega Planar 3/AT VM95ML & SH - Bluesound Node II - Copland CSA 100 - Audioplan Kontrast 3
Kitchen: WiiM Pro - Wadia 151 - B&W 685s2

Sitting Room: Wadia 581SE - Rega Planar 3/AT VM95ML & SH - Bluesound Node II - Copland CSA 100 - Audioplan Kontrast 3
Kitchen: WiiM Pro - Wadia 151 - B&W 685s2
Re: Wadia 151 PowerDAC: One of those WTF moments
Diapason wrote:Haha, maybe I'm just losing the plot -- not getting enough sleep!
sd card player, modded soekris dac, class a lifepo4 amp or gb class a/b amp, diy open baffle speakers based on project audio mundorf trio 10's
Re: Wadia 151 PowerDAC: One of those WTF moments
Troll alert has a foreign agent compromised Simon's logon?
Down with this sort of thing
Down with this sort of thing
GroupBuySD DAC/First Watt AlephJ/NigeAmp/Audio PC's/Lampi L4.5 Dac/ Groupbuy AD1862 DHT Dac /Quad ESL63's.Tannoy Legacy Cheviots.