Brexit

[tony]

Hope it is not as bleak as you are painting it Adrian. It wouldn't surprise me though. nearly one year in to the pandemic and we somehow have managed to ignore people coming in to our airports. Tons of empty hotels around the airport and no effort made to put an isolation regime in place or testing facilities to mitigate cases coming into the country.

I still come across the odd hidden Garda speed check on motorways were the speed limit is set artificially low. We are a great little country but unfortunately still manage to do things arse about face.

[Sloop John B]

Conor Pope has the following Q&A in the IT today -

But hang on a second, I thought the Christmas Eve Deal meant Britain had tariff-free access to the Single Market. This doesn’t sound like tariff-free access to me.
Yeah, Pricewatch thought the same thing. So we got on to the Revenue people again. As ever, they were able to break it down for us in a way that made sense. The Withdrawal Agreement does indeed ensure tariff-free trade between the EU and the UK but – and this is the important bit – only when the origin of the goods is actually the UK.

What does that mean?
Revenue says “no tariffs will apply if goods entering the EU from the UK are proven to be of UK origin and a request for preferential treatment has been included on the customs declaration. Similarly no tariffs will apply if goods being exported to the UK from the EU are proven to be of EU origin.”

I am guessing that the fancy telly I want to buy on amazon.co.uk didn’t actually originate in the UK?
It seems unlikely to be honest. Similarly not many of the clothes or trainers you might see selling on popular UK-based websites were made in England, Scotland or Wales. If, however, you are in the market for a hand-knitted jumper from Cornwall made with wool from Cornish sheep then you should be all set.

This does seem to allow for a Bristish made speaker being a feasible purchase but trialling a Dutch and Dutch 8c via a UK dealer seems to be a victim of Brexit. - must brush up on my French!

.sjb

[tony]

You are just being slowly but surely nudged towards the purchase we all want you to make :)

[Diapason]

Not me, I want him to buy the Dutch & Dutch. How the hell else am I going to hear them?

Whatever about Brexit, I'm still waiting for a variety of bits and bobs that I ordered well before Christmas. I'm going to be pretty miffed if I get charged extra because of slow shipping.

[Fran]

Not me, I want him to buy the Dutch & Dutch. How the hell else am I going to hear them?

I'm being hopeful that we get to Munich this year (September is the new date) and we'll get to hear all this great gear. Then come home and realise what we have at home meets and beats most of it.

[Ivor]

Not me, I want him to buy the Dutch & Dutch. How the hell else am I going to hear them?

I'm being hopeful that we get to Munich this year (September is the new date) and we'll get to hear all this great gear. Then come home and realise what we have at home meets and beats most of it.

As is very often the way! Thankfully.

Direct flights to Munich though. No connecting flights in Outer England.

[peelaaa]

Conor Pope has the following Q&A in the IT today -

But hang on a second, I thought the Christmas Eve Deal meant Britain had tariff-free access to the Single Market. This doesn’t sound like tariff-free access to me.
Yeah, Pricewatch thought the same thing. So we got on to the Revenue people again. As ever, they were able to break it down for us in a way that made sense. The Withdrawal Agreement does indeed ensure tariff-free trade between the EU and the UK but – and this is the important bit – only when the origin of the goods is actually the UK.

What does that mean?
Revenue says “no tariffs will apply if goods entering the EU from the UK are proven to be of UK origin and a request for preferential treatment has been included on the customs declaration. Similarly no tariffs will apply if goods being exported to the UK from the EU are proven to be of EU origin.”

I am guessing that the fancy telly I want to buy on amazon.co.uk didn’t actually originate in the UK?
It seems unlikely to be honest. Similarly not many of the clothes or trainers you might see selling on popular UK-based websites were made in England, Scotland or Wales. If, however, you are in the market for a hand-knitted jumper from Cornwall made with wool from Cornish sheep then you should be all set.

This does seem to allow for a Bristish made speaker being a feasible purchase but trialling a Dutch and Dutch 8c via a UK dealer seems to be a victim of Brexit. - must brush up on my French!

.sjb

How would customs know that the 2nd hand amplifier(example) you are buying from the UK via a personal buyer was not of UK origin?. Surely the seller just writes on the customs form that it is a hifi amplifier and the purchase price? Most sellers would probably not even know if it was made in the uk or not? Even if it was a Uk brand, most are not even made in the UK, they are designed only.

[Sloop John B]

Conor Pope has the following Q&A in the IT today -

But hang on a second, I thought the Christmas Eve Deal meant Britain had tariff-free access to the Single Market. This doesn’t sound like tariff-free access to me.
Yeah, Pricewatch thought the same thing. So we got on to the Revenue people again. As ever, they were able to break it down for us in a way that made sense. The Withdrawal Agreement does indeed ensure tariff-free trade between the EU and the UK but – and this is the important bit – only when the origin of the goods is actually the UK.

What does that mean?
Revenue says “no tariffs will apply if goods entering the EU from the UK are proven to be of UK origin and a request for preferential treatment has been included on the customs declaration. Similarly no tariffs will apply if goods being exported to the UK from the EU are proven to be of EU origin.”

I am guessing that the fancy telly I want to buy on amazon.co.uk didn’t actually originate in the UK?
It seems unlikely to be honest. Similarly not many of the clothes or trainers you might see selling on popular UK-based websites were made in England, Scotland or Wales. If, however, you are in the market for a hand-knitted jumper from Cornwall made with wool from Cornish sheep then you should be all set.

This does seem to allow for a Bristish made speaker being a feasible purchase but trialling a Dutch and Dutch 8c via a UK dealer seems to be a victim of Brexit. - must brush up on my French!

.sjb

How would customs know that the 2nd hand amplifier(example) you are buying from the UK via a personal buyer was not of UK origin?. Surely the seller just writes on the customs form that it is a hifi amplifier and the purchase price? Most sellers would probably not even know if it was made in the uk or not? Even if it was a Uk brand, most are not even made in the UK, they are designed only.

The issue with second hand gear is VAT predominantly I feel. Everything will have 23% plus collection charge added.

.sjb

[hudo]

Isn't like when you're buying from US amazon or ebay for amounts larger than 100-200€ - so irish VAT and customs (12%) and currier fee (~10-15€)? It will be the same for UK from now on.

[Fran]

FYI, I bought a few records in the Zavvi sale there a week or so ago. An Elvis (!) box set and the abbey road remastered Bob Marley Legend collection. Arrived in 2 parcels yesterday, each had a little sticker saying they were community origin and didn't need customs etc. So at least if you buy from there it seems safe (for records anyway).