Sennheiser HD650 and DAP player

[Maciej]

Hi,
Is there anyone here who uses Sennheisers HD650 with portable DAP player (not overly expensive) and reach satisfactory output / loudness without use of additional portable amplifier.
If so can you recommend device that can drive those headphones, please?

Thanks
Maciej

[Fran]

Can't give you a recommendation but I can tell you I have an xDuoo X3 and it won't go loud enough with the 650s.

[Maciej]

Can't give you a recommendation but I can tell you I have an xDuoo X3 and it won't go loud enough with the 650s.

Thanks Fran,

It’s going to be probably difficult to get 200mW from any portable DAP to drive the Sennheisers without the separate amplifier. Mobile phone is not ideal as it would require separate DAC/ Amp.
I am looking for to listen music in the bed, so the choice is to buy DAP player and new headphones or try to use what I already have. I love HD650 but since I sold my head amp I have nothing to drive them properly. I will be crucified if I emerge with something that is larger than box of matches.

Maciej