lekt player
Re: lekt player
have learned ws2016 dll files, too much changed relative entry points, almost in audio core dll. need time to analys them, goon-heaven. will try, maybe i can do.
your ws2016 dll versions: 10.0.10586.xx
my win10 pro dll versions: 10.0.10240.16xxx
think ws2016 dll build newer, i have seen better code in several functions. no longer need windows update for win10 for synchronize dll versions.
try v3.39 256 lea win10_vs2015 , v3.43 256 win10 for testing in ws2016 and compare SQ to win10. these 2 versions of lekt player used standard exported windows API so can work for ws2016, not sure.
your ws2016 dll versions: 10.0.10586.xx
my win10 pro dll versions: 10.0.10240.16xxx
think ws2016 dll build newer, i have seen better code in several functions. no longer need windows update for win10 for synchronize dll versions.
try v3.39 256 lea win10_vs2015 , v3.43 256 win10 for testing in ws2016 and compare SQ to win10. these 2 versions of lekt player used standard exported windows API so can work for ws2016, not sure.
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Re: lekt player
Thank you for your efforts - this could be difficult if you cannot test - take all the time you need.lekt wrote:have learned ws2016 dll files, too much changed relative entry points, almost in audio core dll. need time to analys them, goon-heaven. will try, maybe i can do.
I read that TP4 has same audio engine as Win10. Let me know if you determine this is wrong.
Please explain more about not needing WU to sync dll versions.lekt wrote:your ws2016 dll versions: 10.0.10586.xx
my win10 pro dll versions: 10.0.10240.16xxx
think ws2016 dll build newer, i have seen better code in several functions. no longer need windows update for win10 for synchronize dll versions.
Both stop straight off, no music.lekt wrote:try v3.39 256 lea win10_vs2015 , v3.43 256 win10 for testing in ws2016 and compare SQ to win10. these 2 versions of lekt player used standard exported windows API so can work for ws2016, not sure.
I am assuming I dont need any C++ runtime dlls for these to work?
Can you suggest any other lekt players to try?
Re: lekt player
"...TP4 has same audio engine as Win10."
engine almost is the same but only architecture, COM interface, algorithm. new builded dll file can be add/remove/modify some functions/sub-functions so can change entry point (relative location in dll file) of functions or variables in data section.
"Please explain more about not needing WU to sync dll versions."
i think if we in one day update win10, ws2016 together then can get last dll versions, they can be the same for win10 and ws2016, hopefully. and lekt player will work in both OS.
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uploaded lekt.exe v3.53 256 lea ws2016
for your testing in ws2016 and compare SQ with win10.
this version used old v3.39 256 lea win10_vs2015 code, removed all tricks (?), uses only windows API and few syscall. try and notice me if it works.
engine almost is the same but only architecture, COM interface, algorithm. new builded dll file can be add/remove/modify some functions/sub-functions so can change entry point (relative location in dll file) of functions or variables in data section.
"Please explain more about not needing WU to sync dll versions."
i think if we in one day update win10, ws2016 together then can get last dll versions, they can be the same for win10 and ws2016, hopefully. and lekt player will work in both OS.
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uploaded lekt.exe v3.53 256 lea ws2016
for your testing in ws2016 and compare SQ with win10.
this version used old v3.39 256 lea win10_vs2015 code, removed all tricks (?), uses only windows API and few syscall. try and notice me if it works.
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Re: lekt player
Thank you for your helpful explanations.
Stops straight away - no music.lekt wrote: uploaded lekt.exe v3.53 256 lea ws2016
for your testing in ws2016 and compare SQ with win10.
this version used old v3.39 256 lea win10_vs2015 code, removed all tricks (?), uses only windows API and few syscall. try and notice me if it works.
Re: lekt player
try lekt.exe v3.53.1 256 ws2016
maybe it works for your ws2016.
do you still use win10?
maybe it works for your ws2016.
do you still use win10?
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Re: lekt player
YAY! v3.53.1 plays and very nicely too. Will do some critical listening later.
Yes, I have Win10 installed on another stick.
What w10 lekt version is closest to v3.53.1?
Yes, I have Win10 installed on another stick.
What w10 lekt version is closest to v3.53.1?
Re: lekt player
plays in my win10 pro:
v2.93 160 emotion
v2.98.12 256 sop ser
v3.9 256 small
v3.15.1 256 qword3
v3.19.1 256 pop
try run in ws2016. v3.19.1 256 pop not bad sound, have focus. do compare, ws2016 better than win10?
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v3.53.1 256 ws2016 uses simple code, no tricks. so code lesser, small file size, it have acuratetely rearranged blocks of instructions, good effect coz better for instruction fetching by CPU.
sound very good, think it have most correct depth, width. bass weigth enough can make natural, full stereo effect and good live sound.
tested Pink Floyd/Welcome to The Machine, full sound in room, anywhere.
v2.93 160 emotion
v2.98.12 256 sop ser
v3.9 256 small
v3.15.1 256 qword3
v3.19.1 256 pop
try run in ws2016. v3.19.1 256 pop not bad sound, have focus. do compare, ws2016 better than win10?
--------edit-----
v3.53.1 256 ws2016 uses simple code, no tricks. so code lesser, small file size, it have acuratetely rearranged blocks of instructions, good effect coz better for instruction fetching by CPU.
sound very good, think it have most correct depth, width. bass weigth enough can make natural, full stereo effect and good live sound.
tested Pink Floyd/Welcome to The Machine, full sound in room, anywhere.
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Re: lekt player
Yes, v3.53.1 256 ws2016 is excellent. I agree with your SQ analysis - also has good detail.
Comparing OSs using this player: Server 2016 sounds super clean against W10, the lower noise floor gives slightly better micro detail and insight.
Comparing OSs using this player: Server 2016 sounds super clean against W10, the lower noise floor gives slightly better micro detail and insight.
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great news. have seen many functions in ws2016 dll(s) changed, almost reduced code size for each function. im following few functions and related sub-functions, audio core not frequently improved but system kernel everyday changes code.goon-heaven wrote:Yes, v3.53.1 256 ws2016 is excellent. I agree with your SQ analysis - also has good detail.
Comparing OSs using this player: Server 2016 sounds super clean against W10, the lower noise floor gives slightly better micro detail and insight.
enjoy with ws2016.
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Re: lekt player
I see W10 Enterprise Eval is build 10586 too, so have installed that on the W10 stick to replace eval build 10240.
SQ surpasses that from W2016 TP4 build 10586 , super clean, excellent imaging, better presentation of strings.
SQ surpasses that from W2016 TP4 build 10586 , super clean, excellent imaging, better presentation of strings.