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John Dot
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Re: MQN

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SSE4 users still lurking in the shadows ;)
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Re: MQN

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John Dot wrote:SSE4 users still lurking in the shadows ;)
As everyone is looking for a hardware solution these days, I wonder if the future of MQn is as a high quality laptop/pc player using the headphone socket from the internal soundcard.

Now realise that the play via the headphone was using wavert instead of wave cyclic, so probably why it sounded good. Wasapi takes care of that side of things, but a bit more difficult in kernel streaming mode.
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sbgk wrote:
John Dot wrote:SSE4 users still lurking in the shadows ;)
As everyone is looking for a hardware solution these days, I wonder if the future of MQn is as a high quality laptop/pc player using the headphone socket from the internal soundcard.

Now realise that the play via the headphone was using wavert instead of wave cyclic, so probably why it sounded good. Wasapi takes care of that side of things, but a bit more difficult in kernel streaming mode.
Everybody is looking for a silver bullet, which doesn't exist IMHO.
Best result is achieved by combination of good software and good hardware.
Choice for one without the other is always suboptimal IMHO.
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Re: MQN

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Aleg wrote:
sbgk wrote:
John Dot wrote:SSE4 users still lurking in the shadows ;)
As everyone is looking for a hardware solution these days, I wonder if the future of MQn is as a high quality laptop/pc player using the headphone socket from the internal soundcard.

Now realise that the play via the headphone was using wavert instead of wave cyclic, so probably why it sounded good. Wasapi takes care of that side of things, but a bit more difficult in kernel streaming mode.
Everybody is looking for a silver bullet, which doesn't exist IMHO.
Best result is achieved by combination of good software and good hardware.
Choice for one without the other is always suboptimal IMHO.
Completely agree there is no such thing as silver bullet software that cures any of the hardware flaws
In fact I would suggest that using poorish hardware for development and testing of the software considerably limits it's own potential
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Re: MQN

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nige2000 wrote:
Aleg wrote:
sbgk wrote:
As everyone is looking for a hardware solution these days.....

Wasapi takes care of that side of things, but a bit more difficult in kernel streaming mode.
Everybody is looking for a silver bullet, which doesn't exist IMHO.
Best result is achieved by combination of good software and good hardware.
Choice for one without the other is always suboptimal IMHO.
Completely agree there is no such thing as silver bullet software that cures any of the hardware flaws
In fact I would suggest that using poorish hardware for development and testing of the software considerably limits it's own potential
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Re: MQN

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uploaded control v22 and play v148, be interested if it works on other dacs, works on mine. very sensitive to other things happening on the computer at which point it'll play at half speed.

may be able to get it working for other dacs if there is a problem.
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sbgk wrote:uploaded control v22 and play v148, be interested if it works on other dacs, works on mine. very sensitive to other things happening on the computer at which point it'll play at half speed.

may be able to get it working for other dacs if there is a problem.
Gordon

the two new files are name play and counter v22 and not control.
I suspect you uploaded the wrong file (counter instead of control) looking at the file size.

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Re: MQN

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sbgk wrote:uploaded control v22 and play v148, be interested if it works on other dacs, works on mine. very sensitive to other things happening on the computer at which point it'll play at half speed.

may be able to get it working for other dacs if there is a problem.
Using the two latest files, playback is running OK here.
It is a dedicated machine though.
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sbgk wrote:uploaded control v22 and play v148, be interested if it works on other dacs, works on mine. very sensitive to other things happening on the computer at which point it'll play at half speed.

may be able to get it working for other dacs if there is a problem.
Mqnplay v148 and counter v23 play fine here. My PC is also a dedicated musicplayer machine.
With play v148 and counter v23, sq is very nice.
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Re: MQN

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sbgk wrote:uploaded control v22 and play v148, be interested if it works on other dacs, works on mine. very sensitive to other things happening on the computer at which point it'll play at half speed.

may be able to get it working for other dacs if there is a problem.
+1 without problems - and I often have.
Soundwise stunning. Wondering what it makes so particular, slightly "euphonic".
Too early in terms of long-term hearing, on the way...
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