Because there's no audible differences.Derek wrote:OK I'll bite, why is there no proof?
Does Proof Exist That USB cables Affect Sound Quality?
Re: Does Proof Exist That USB cables Affect Sound Quality?
Re: Does Proof Exist That USB cables Affect Sound Quality?
maxflinn wrote:It's a genuine question on most fora but I fear that on this forum it equates to trolling.Ivor wrote:do you wonder why there's no trolls here?maxflinn wrote:Do none of you guys wonder why there's no proof?
It's a genuinely unoriginal troll question on most fora. It has been ever since the first "high end" CD player went on sale and the pseudo scientific numpties spouted their "bits is bits" version of logic.
There is plenty discussion on other threads about measuring such things (or not) so go read them first. As has been pointed out here many times one's ears are the only instrument that really matter.
we've had a bit of a troll clear out recently so it might be best not to ask the same questions over and over again.
Vinyl -anything else is data storage.
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Re: Does Proof Exist That USB cables Affect Sound Quality?
There have been plenty of civilised debates on this forum from subjective vs objective points of view on various topics. But its plainly obvious you're trolling. At the very least post some technical views as to why you think they cannot sound different.maxflinn wrote:It's a genuine question on most fora but I fear that on this forum it equates to trolling.Ivor wrote:do you wonder why there's no trolls here?maxflinn wrote:Do none of you guys wonder why there's no proof?
For the record, I dont think differences exist between most USB cables but noise riding on signals *might* have an affect downstream so not beyond impossibility.
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Re: Does Proof Exist That USB cables Affect Sound Quality?
You mean that people who don't agree with the house views on all things digital were banned?Ivor wrote:maxflinn wrote:
we've had a bit of a troll clear out recently so it might be best not to ask the same questions over and over again.
Re: Does Proof Exist That USB cables Affect Sound Quality?
But this is the thing, there is no evidence that they can sound different, none at all, anywhere, yet many still claim they do..DaveF wrote: At the very least post some technical views as to why you think they cannot sound different.
I just don't get why, personally.
Re: Does Proof Exist That USB cables Affect Sound Quality?
For the record I'd be very surprised to hear any difference (improvement) too but I've been surprised by cables before! Not only that but people on this forum, whose judgement I trust, have said they heard differences. I don't feel the need to demand subject proof on random hifi forums. That would be silly.DaveF wrote:
For the record, I dont think differences exist between most USB cables but noise riding on signals *might* have an affect downstream so not beyond impossibility.
Vinyl -anything else is data storage.
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Re: Does Proof Exist That USB cables Affect Sound Quality?
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I think you've nailed it there
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Re: Does Proof Exist That USB cables Affect Sound Quality?
get over it.maxflinn wrote: I just don't get why, personally.
Vinyl -anything else is data storage.
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Re: Does Proof Exist That USB cables Affect Sound Quality?
I dont think any use is going to come of this thread. Surely it can be locked?
And to the OP, we're open to any kind of discussion on hifi but you havent contributed anything of use here and are in fact just looking to wind people up.
And to the OP, we're open to any kind of discussion on hifi but you havent contributed anything of use here and are in fact just looking to wind people up.
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Re: Does Proof Exist That USB cables Affect Sound Quality?
DaveF nailed it in one. Max unfortunately adopts the goldfish route and just swims round the bowl and asks the same question ad finitum.maxflinn wrote:But this is the thing, there is no evidence that they can sound different, none at all, anywhere, yet many still claim they do..DaveF wrote: At the very least post some technical views as to why you think they cannot sound different.
I just don't get why, personally.
If a person asks him to go off and get information he just swims back round the bowl and pops up with the same question in another format.
It is kinda fun really but eventually wears thin.
For the record I struggle with usb cables also but have bought a few and have a favourite. I also did conduct a kitchen counter test blindfolded and picked out the same chunky cable each time.
Just noticed DaveF's last post and that sums it up Max if you can't convince a cable non believer like DaveF you are on a sticky wicket.
Lock it up Fran before it gets as big as the MQN thread.
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