Jazz - What's your bag, man?

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l always like the animated sheet music....thaks for that Seán.
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Brilliant, Seán!
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I'll tell you something else, those videos are a great reminder of what a blunt tool musical notation really is. It's amazing to see music I know so well written down and losing nearly all the nuance in the translation. It really makes me wonder about the performance of classical music from the baroque period, for example, where some styles and conventions were just understood and not notated. How close are we getting to what the composer had in mind at all at all?

Still, none of that matters really. Back to jazz!
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What a record!
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Diapason wrote:I'll tell you something else, those videos are a great reminder of what a blunt tool musical notation really is. It's amazing to see music I know so well written down and losing nearly all the nuance in the translation. It really makes me wonder about the performance of classical music from the baroque period, for example, where some styles and conventions were just understood and not notated. How close are we getting to what the composer had in mind at all at all?

Still, none of that matters really. Back to jazz!

A critical point I agree as each performance was most likely dictated by all of the accepted conventions of performances of the time coupled I would also suggest with minimal rehearsal time.
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fergus wrote:
Diapason wrote:I'll tell you something else, those videos are a great reminder of what a blunt tool musical notation really is. It's amazing to see music I know so well written down and losing nearly all the nuance in the translation. It really makes me wonder about the performance of classical music from the baroque period, for example, where some styles and conventions were just understood and not notated. How close are we getting to what the composer had in mind at all at all?

Still, none of that matters really. Back to jazz!

A critical point I agree as each performance was most likely dictated by all of the accepted conventions of performances of the time coupled I would also suggest with minimal rehearsal time.
A wee anecdote for you: Ellington wrote music in cars, buses, trains, planes and in the recording studios, usually as his musicians were setting up or taking a break. Quite often his copyist wouldn't have had time to write out the music for the different sections, this always posed problems for new members and in particular for someone taking over the lead trumpet chair as they were unfamiliar with his practises, Ellington's music wasn't always written down, it never suffered and sounded fresh and vibrant as a result, but I digress.
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markof wrote:Image

What a record!
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Listening to this last night , great recording
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Seán wrote:
fergus wrote:
Diapason wrote:I'll tell you something else, those videos are a great reminder of what a blunt tool musical notation really is. It's amazing to see music I know so well written down and losing nearly all the nuance in the translation. It really makes me wonder about the performance of classical music from the baroque period, for example, where some styles and conventions were just understood and not notated. How close are we getting to what the composer had in mind at all at all?

Still, none of that matters really. Back to jazz!

A critical point I agree as each performance was most likely dictated by all of the accepted conventions of performances of the time coupled I would also suggest with minimal rehearsal time.
A wee anecdote for you: Ellington wrote music in cars, buses, trains, planes and in the recording studios, usually as his musicians were setting up or taking a break. Quite often his copyist wouldn't have had time to write out the music for the different sections, this always posed problems for new members and in particular for someone taking over the lead trumpet chair as they were unfamiliar with his practises, Ellington's music wasn't always written down, it never suffered and sounded fresh and vibrant as a result, but I digress.

I don't think that you digress very far as it is also another important point Seán that at the time I believe that a certain amount of improvisation was required. I don't think this would be to the extent of free jazz today but I still believe that it would be expected of the musicians of the time.
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Back listening to this again, a really exceptional disk, jazz, rock, pop and more than a pinch of something else.
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Earlier, on vinyl....


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