Power cables

[tony]

This type of stuff needs to be moved to wigwam it is not appropriate I am just waiting for it to degenerate into a cursing match.
Tirnahifi will have to be renamed tirnawigfam

I have jumped off the fence and ordered the ag500 regenerator. I had toyed with going for the ag1500 to give me plenty of head room and an adjustable fan but when I checked out the specs the 500's fan is 15db and the 1500 is adjustable down to 10db so with the 20% off offer currently there kindly pointed out by Simon I couldn't resist. BTW only reason this is going ahead is I sold my cyrus amp/psx-r and rack at the weekend so next years purchases are brought forward. Obviously now with my nordusto cables I am fully armed and protected from the baad power that is out there. The world is a scary place and one cannot be too careful. Please do not start a thread suggesting a full diesel generator is required for ultimate protection as I am not listening.

[cybot]

Six pages on kettle leads!!!!!! The world's ending tomorrow ;) I did enjoy reading it though, God help me!

[Rocker]

Some DIY stuff from tnt-audio.com http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/hydra_e.html

James, this is a mains plugtop that can accept up to four mains cables. Years ago I bought a couple, they work as mains plugtops but there is no way they could 'improve' the electricity supply to equipment. It is possible that I still have one in the garage, if so anyone here can have it for free. A bottle of Midleton whiskey and I will deliver it in person......

[Rocker]

But I still disagree with the notion that a special power chord improves things over that last metre or two. What is it technically about a 500Euro power that differs from a 1000Euro one? Extra conductors I think but a standard kettle lead has more than enough conductors, afterall these are safety critical devices that must ahere to strict BS standards.

You would need to 'look' at the mains supply with an 'scope Dave, both before and after the mains cable. I don't have one, actually I missed out on one a few years ago, this might show up something. Perhaps not. Using the cables in your system is the obvious way to determine if they work as described. Or not.

For something thats relatively straightforward to understand from a technical point of view, 'differences' between powerchords are completely down to placebo in my opinion.
In other pieces of electrical equipment that are very sensitive to power supply you dont come across special power chords. The idea would simply be laughed at.

I believe our ear/brain is vastly more sensitive and discriminating than even the most sensitive electronic equipment. Guitarists are amongst the most conservative thinkers around but even they are now looking at the leads from their guitars to amps and the links on their pedalboard and wondering if they can be improved upon. At this rate of progress they will be checking out mains cables when Ireland is out of hock and solvent again........

[Claus]

This video might be of interest:
http://twit.tv/show/home-theater-geeks/139

From around 45.30 they talk about how to test the difference with power conditioners. Would be interesting to see what the result is with a cable....

Here are some pro audio conditioners:
http://www.thomann.de/ie/power_conditioners.html

[Diapason]

This type of stuff needs to be moved to wigwam it is not appropriate I am just waiting for it to degenerate into a cursing match.
Tirnahifi will have to be renamed tirnawigfam

Oh dear God NO!! I don't find it a very nice place over there sometimes...

I have jumped off the fence and ordered the ag500 regenerator. I had toyed with going for the ag1500 to give me plenty of head room and an adjustable fan but when I checked out the specs the 500's fan is 15db and the 1500 is adjustable down to 10db so with the 20% off offer currently there kindly pointed out by Simon I couldn't resist.

Good man Tony, delighted you ordered it. Will be very interested in your views when it arrives.

[DaveF]

You would need to 'look' at the mains supply with an 'scope Dave, both before and after the mains cable.

yes of course. It's quite easy and straightforward to do as long you're careful with those high voltages.
Why then doesn't Russ Andrews or Nordost not show these test results? In all other electronics components, if you make a claim, you show the how & why.
I have first hand knowledge of one such well known cable company in the UK. I can tell you now that there is no R&D there. Its all about marketing and spin.

I believe our ear/brain is vastly more sensitive and discriminating than even the most sensitive electronic equipment.

Yes I agree that the human ear/brain is very sensitive to such things. However..........if the difference being heard is real then it shows up as a measurement in the equipment. I despise the tired old excuse of 'oh we're not measuring the right thing, there are other unknowns etc'.
If that's the case, then what makes one think that the cable companies possess such secret knowledge such that they can make products consistantly so that product with serial number 0001 behaves the same as product with serial number 0002?



I think that this thread has probably run its course. Neither of us are going to convince the other at this stage. :-))

[Diapason]

Well we can be sure of this much:

Power cables definitely make a difference. Just try running your hifi without them.

[DaveF]

we need a bigger rake

[cybot]

we need a bigger rake

Or a power cable :)))))