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Kaleidescape Cinema System -- how do they rip BluRay
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:16 pm
by james
I just saw an ad on cloney's site for the Kaleidescape Cinema System
http://www.kaleidescape.com/
http://www.cloneyaudio.com/kaleidescape ... stem.shtml
which is basically a movie server [like a music server but for DVD's rather than CD's]
I note it allows ripping of BluRay discs -- I am just wonderring how they got permission to do this.
Does anyone know ?
James
P.S. In cloney's updated website the link to the old forum 'closed for maintenance' is gone !!
Re: Kaleidescape Cinema System -- how do they rip BluRay
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:19 pm
by Diapason
I think this fact explains a lot of the expense of the system -- licensing fees are massive.
Re: Kaleidescape Cinema System -- how do they rip BluRay
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:59 pm
by james
I found the following ...
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio- ... 992/review
which states ..
"...
For Blu-ray playback, a third component becomes necessary. This 100-disc Blu-ray carousel, referred to by Kaleidescape as a Modular Disc Vault, is the key to how the company has managed to placate the studios.
Any Blu-ray disc that has been imported onto the server has to subsequently be loaded into this vault, which is connected to one of the players via a USB. You cannot play a previously imported Blu-ray if the physical disc is not present – its entry in the various movie lists is greyed out.
..."
A horrible solution ...
James
Re: Kaleidescape Cinema System -- how do they rip BluRay
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:01 pm
by Diapason
Didn't know that. Horrible solution indeed. Still, at least you don't have to sit through the ads and other miscellaneous crap at the beginning of a disc you've paid for.
Re: Kaleidescape Cinema System -- how do they rip BluRay
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:04 pm
by james
From the same review ...
"...
With my demo system plumbed in, importing a recent Blu-ray (Toy Story 3) took just under an hour. DVDs are, however, much quicker and you can watch previously imported media while the task proceeds.
..."
I suppose if you can afford the system then you pay your dealer to do the imports.
The review is quite positive but personally it all seems too expenseive / big / slow and ugly for what you get.
James
Re: Kaleidescape Cinema System -- how do they rip BluRay
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:15 pm
by Diapason
I thought the same until I saw it in action in the shop. If I had the means, I'd be very tempted...
Re: Kaleidescape Cinema System -- how do they rip BluRay
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:04 pm
by kronosav
How about a DF Solution, with Blu-Ray capability.
Obviously it is not yet legal to rip music/video onto a server in the UK or Ireland but they are some programs that will allow you to do this on these devices if choose to break the law. Blu-Rays however take us a serious amount of room on your hard drive unless you compress them. Blu-Ray can hold up to 1TB of information so if you have a 2TB drive you might be lucky to get 2 or 3 movies. Removing the menu's and giving a small compression is often the best way to reduce size but to experience Blu-ray properly the best way is to read straight off the disc.
Re: Kaleidescape Cinema System -- how do they rip BluRay
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:23 pm
by Fran
I thought blu-ray was 25gb or 50gb?
Re: Kaleidescape Cinema System -- how do they rip BluRay
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:32 pm
by Claus
Wikipedia:
Blu-ray Disc (official abbreviation BD) is an optical disc storage medium designed to supersede the DVD format. The disc diameter is 120 mm and disc thickness 1.2 mm plastic optical disc, the same size as DVDs and CDs. Blu-ray Discs contain 25 GB (23.31 GiB) per layer, with dual layer discs (50 GB) being the norm for feature-length video discs. Triple layer discs (100 GB) and quadruple layers (128 GB) are available for BD-XL Blu-ray re-writer drives.[2] Currently movie production companies have not utilized the triple or quadruple layer discs; most consumer owned Blu-ray players will not be able to read the additional layers, while newer Blu-ray players may require a firmware update to play the triple and quadruple sized discs.
1TB would be a looong film ;)