HIfI summer of frustration ( eventually sorted )
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:07 pm
Hi all,
its a long time since I posted but I feel I should contribute to the forum, I noticed it had gone quiet over the last while, is it the summer and long evenings or is it everybody having reached hifi nirvana!!! with no need room for further upgrading. I think not, probably real life intervening.
Anyway this post could take on seriously lengthy proportions. I might add my issues trivial are in the scheme of real life events and can not be taken in any way other than as a irritant and minor at that.
My last contact with the forum and its members was at the analogue get together kindly hosted by Gerry and Fran. Some serious kit was on demonstration and it provided everybody with an opportunity to listen and catch up. For me it was very beneficial in that Fran pointed out that I should check the biasing on my Airtight ATM2. This I did to discover that the KT 88 valves ( airtights own and which are carefully sourced from China according to Airtight ) seriously off. I had Cloneys confirm my suspicions, I was originally blaming my speakers for a strong hissing noise coming from my Quad 2805s but most likely the tubes were at fault. I had spoken to Darius about the possibility of the panels beginning to fail, which according to Darius and Ivan ( Cloneys ) could be seriously expensive depending on the number of panels to be replaced and from experience ( I have had to replace a panel in the 2805s and a previous set of 63s and its seems the cost of replacement has increased significantly ). Anyhow, a full complement of tubes ( all Electro Harmonix ) were ordered from England at approximately a cost of £ 200 from HOTROX. They were installed and after about an hour of use fire and smoke was coming out of the amp. Off went the power and I left it sit idle. After a few hours I turned it on and it seemed all right except bias all over the place. After consultation with Ivan in Cloneys and a check, two of the KT 88s were sourced as the culprits.Back to HOTROX who on checking agreed they were shot and were replaced.
Back to normality and the speakers seemed to be working without hissing sounds. Or so it seemed!! I bought three records from Acoustic Sounds in the US, the Beach Boys Sunflower and Holland and Van Morrison's Common One. Listening to Sunflower I felt that my cartridge was showing its age, its a Van den Hul Super MC1 and I was hearing enormous distortion on the second track on Side 2 especially but overall the needle seemed to be attracting dust more than usual and not sounding as good as normal. Hence, I felt it was time for a retip. I have a Blue Point ( a lot cheaper and has seen virtually no use at all kept specifically to pop in in the event of a retip being required so that music can continue to flow. So off comes the van den Hul and on goes the Blue Point and when finally adjusted sound is only coming from one speaker. Question now is it the Quads, cartridge, amps or cable. After 2 very frustrating evenings ( and using advice helpfully posted on the forum ) it was clear it was the Blue point. This was established when I put the Van Den Hul back in but this time using an electronic tracking force gauge just acquired from Amazon for the princely sum of € 22 ( including postage ). I had been using a manual Shure gauge with the Blue Point.
So in summary, good points is that my vinyl system sounds better than ever, remounting the Van Den Hul seems to have eliminated the distortion and picking up of dust etc. The electronic gauge made mounting much quicker and easier and far more accurate. My Turntable got a good clean up, more cosmetic but a lot of dust cleared off etc and is now gleaming.
Downside is that the Blue Point is lunched! However I have Koetsu Black and I have sent it for a re tip to A. J. Van den Hul to continue with when I decide that the Special is ready for a retip.
Other downside is that whilst no hissing from Quads at moment I suspect it is intermittent and may return, touch wood it won't.
By the way, as an aside, my eldest son who is working in Japan was able to source Airtight KT 88s, but at a price of €110 per tube. Big difference with the Electro Harmonix.
Biggest pluses, Ivan in Cloneys who was extremely helpful ( they always are, Noel is an absolute gent ) and I think they are a prime example of a good retailer and why, even if you pay a premium for gear, which I don't believe they charge, you get it back in spades re advice, customer service and home demos, and last but not least, help that is available on this site!! Thanks Fran!
End result is that I am really enjoying my vinyl!!!
I hope everybody is enjoying the summer, and would love to hear about your hifi on the forum
its a long time since I posted but I feel I should contribute to the forum, I noticed it had gone quiet over the last while, is it the summer and long evenings or is it everybody having reached hifi nirvana!!! with no need room for further upgrading. I think not, probably real life intervening.
Anyway this post could take on seriously lengthy proportions. I might add my issues trivial are in the scheme of real life events and can not be taken in any way other than as a irritant and minor at that.
My last contact with the forum and its members was at the analogue get together kindly hosted by Gerry and Fran. Some serious kit was on demonstration and it provided everybody with an opportunity to listen and catch up. For me it was very beneficial in that Fran pointed out that I should check the biasing on my Airtight ATM2. This I did to discover that the KT 88 valves ( airtights own and which are carefully sourced from China according to Airtight ) seriously off. I had Cloneys confirm my suspicions, I was originally blaming my speakers for a strong hissing noise coming from my Quad 2805s but most likely the tubes were at fault. I had spoken to Darius about the possibility of the panels beginning to fail, which according to Darius and Ivan ( Cloneys ) could be seriously expensive depending on the number of panels to be replaced and from experience ( I have had to replace a panel in the 2805s and a previous set of 63s and its seems the cost of replacement has increased significantly ). Anyhow, a full complement of tubes ( all Electro Harmonix ) were ordered from England at approximately a cost of £ 200 from HOTROX. They were installed and after about an hour of use fire and smoke was coming out of the amp. Off went the power and I left it sit idle. After a few hours I turned it on and it seemed all right except bias all over the place. After consultation with Ivan in Cloneys and a check, two of the KT 88s were sourced as the culprits.Back to HOTROX who on checking agreed they were shot and were replaced.
Back to normality and the speakers seemed to be working without hissing sounds. Or so it seemed!! I bought three records from Acoustic Sounds in the US, the Beach Boys Sunflower and Holland and Van Morrison's Common One. Listening to Sunflower I felt that my cartridge was showing its age, its a Van den Hul Super MC1 and I was hearing enormous distortion on the second track on Side 2 especially but overall the needle seemed to be attracting dust more than usual and not sounding as good as normal. Hence, I felt it was time for a retip. I have a Blue Point ( a lot cheaper and has seen virtually no use at all kept specifically to pop in in the event of a retip being required so that music can continue to flow. So off comes the van den Hul and on goes the Blue Point and when finally adjusted sound is only coming from one speaker. Question now is it the Quads, cartridge, amps or cable. After 2 very frustrating evenings ( and using advice helpfully posted on the forum ) it was clear it was the Blue point. This was established when I put the Van Den Hul back in but this time using an electronic tracking force gauge just acquired from Amazon for the princely sum of € 22 ( including postage ). I had been using a manual Shure gauge with the Blue Point.
So in summary, good points is that my vinyl system sounds better than ever, remounting the Van Den Hul seems to have eliminated the distortion and picking up of dust etc. The electronic gauge made mounting much quicker and easier and far more accurate. My Turntable got a good clean up, more cosmetic but a lot of dust cleared off etc and is now gleaming.
Downside is that the Blue Point is lunched! However I have Koetsu Black and I have sent it for a re tip to A. J. Van den Hul to continue with when I decide that the Special is ready for a retip.
Other downside is that whilst no hissing from Quads at moment I suspect it is intermittent and may return, touch wood it won't.
By the way, as an aside, my eldest son who is working in Japan was able to source Airtight KT 88s, but at a price of €110 per tube. Big difference with the Electro Harmonix.
Biggest pluses, Ivan in Cloneys who was extremely helpful ( they always are, Noel is an absolute gent ) and I think they are a prime example of a good retailer and why, even if you pay a premium for gear, which I don't believe they charge, you get it back in spades re advice, customer service and home demos, and last but not least, help that is available on this site!! Thanks Fran!
End result is that I am really enjoying my vinyl!!!
I hope everybody is enjoying the summer, and would love to hear about your hifi on the forum