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New Berkeley Audio Reference DAC

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:28 pm
by HiFiFan

Re: New Berkeley Audio Reference DAC

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:31 pm
by Aleg
HiFiFan wrote:Looks really ugly to me

http://www.ultrahighendreview.com/berke ... ce-series/
Ugly it is indeed, but then I have never seen a good design by an american company.

Cheers

Aleg

Re: New Berkeley Audio Reference DAC

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:44 pm
by Fran
Ah thats a bit harsh Aleg!

I quite like the look of it - clean uncomplicated looking layout. However 14k!!! Really!!


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Re: New Berkeley Audio Reference DAC

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:24 pm
by Aleg
Fran wrote:Ah thats a bit harsh Aleg!

I quite like the look of it - clean uncomplicated looking layout. However 14k!!! Really!!


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Sorry about being harsh, but I don't like those american designs AT ALL.
I find them coarse and lacking refinement.

Cheers

Aleg

Re: New Berkeley Audio Reference DAC

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:37 pm
by Fran
I dunno - I find them "technical" looking, but that does kind of appeal to me. The designs I don't like as much are the chrome and brass things you sometimes see on valve amps. Funny enough, I think Jadis does that and it looks good, but others just go OTT.

Its hard to know until you actualy get close to it too - all there seems to be are 2 pics on the whole of the web!!

I just find it hard to justify the price....

Re: New Berkeley Audio Reference DAC

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:44 pm
by tony
Fran wrote:I dunno - I find them "technical" looking, but that does kind of appeal to me. The designs I don't like as much are the chrome and brass things you sometimes see on valve amps. Funny enough, I think Jadis does that and it looks good, but others just go OTT.

Its hard to know until you actualy get close to it too - all there seems to be are 2 pics on the whole of the web!!

I just find it hard to justify the price....

Your just covering your ass there!

Re: New Berkeley Audio Reference DAC

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:14 am
by Fran
OK, the bad list:

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My good list:

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Now I'm no one to talk!!! Once its half respectable and can't electrocute someone I'm happy enough!!

Fran

Re: New Berkeley Audio Reference DAC

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:07 am
by Aleg
Fran

The Lamm look quite OK, but I am prejudiced toward Black Boxes, LOL.

See my signature for the clou to that remark.

Cheers

Aleg

Re: New Berkeley Audio Reference DAC

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:28 pm
by tony
Jadis looks a bit understated well some of them anyway compared to the 'bad' ones above.
Art audio cases look great as well. But in general the valve amps really are just 3 boxes on top of a rectangular box with a group of tubes in front and a few knobs. Pathos or UR seem to go in for wooden bits and mad space age looks. I don't get it

Re: New Berkeley Audio Reference DAC

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:54 pm
by nige2000
Aleg wrote:Fran

The Lamm look quite OK, but I am prejudiced toward Black Boxes, LOL.

See my signature for the clou to that remark.

Cheers

Aleg
must be this fine work of art

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lol