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Squeezebox Duet

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:52 pm
by Fran
Hi All,

I have a Squeezebox Duet for sale. Its in perfect nick, and truth be told, although it was turned on all the time, I used it rarely. I can do a factory reset before it leaves here, and I have all the packaging/box etc for it.

I have a SB classic as well and I'm going to hold on to that instead - I just don't use the duet in the room I have it in.....

I'm looking for about the €150 mark for it - which I think is about half retail.

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Fran

Re: Squeezebox Duet

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:18 pm
by Sloop John B
Hi Fran,

how does the duet actually work, I've tried Logitech's website but it's high on adjectives and low on verbs.

I have a QNAP NAS that has my iTunes library on it as well as a collection of flacs. I stream the flacs to a Naim Uniti connected to3the TV etc in the main room. A great little second system.

I have an older iteration of things in the bedroom, mainly a NAD amp.

could (or where would) the Squeezebox fit in?

SJB

Re: Squeezebox Duet

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:27 pm
by Fran
OK.

You download and install the server software from the logitech website. It runs in the background on your PC, or indeed can be run on linux boxes and NAS boxes (in which case you don't need a PC turned on). You point it towards your music folder and it scans it. You can tell it to use your iTunes library (without changing any of it of course), or it can scan the folder and make its own database.

So after you do that, you turn on your receiver (the little back box in the photo) and controller (the yoke like a remote). The idea here is that the receiver sits at the back of the rack and the cables go from it to your DAC or amp (it has analogue, optical and SPDIF coax outputs). The remote sits in its own dedicated charger stand.

When you turn it on, there is a simple set up procedure where it scans for a wireless network. You choose the correct one, and give it whatever wep key you are using. Then it asks for the name of the PC/NAS where the server software is running. Again, you select this from a drop down list. After that its ready to go. You can play any of the music of any format from your library via any of the outputs to your amp/preamp/DAC. You can also play internet radio stations, including paid services like lastFM etc. You can make or use preexisting playlists, shuffle, random, album at a time, song at a time, genre, artist, etc etc etc. It can categorise internet radio stations by genre, location, decade, special interest, favourites from around the world etc etc.

In addition to all that, there is a headphone jack on the controller (the remote) and you can plug in some headphones and listen through the controller in the same way, eg if you didn't want to turn on the amp, or if you were walking from room to room etc etc.

The software is very unobtrusive and uses very little memory etc. and generally it all just works right out of the can. Sound quality is pretty good, about the same as a reasonable CD player through the analog outputs, through a DAC generally better. The controller sits in its stand when not in use and can be set to display a clock or album art etc. When a song it playing, it also will display the album art. Note that the screen on the controller is not touch, but thats all done through a jog wheel and centre button, kinda like an iPod.


There's a short vid here on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64HwO6bx ... re=related

BTW, once you have the server software installed, you can add more squeezebox products, and play different stuff in different rooms, all running from the same server and using the same library.



Fran

Re: Squeezebox Duet

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:51 pm
by tony
Fran just a query I have a squeezebox classic and was using it as you outlined above. I found the wireless internet speed to be poor in the house so wired directly to the modem for the pc. I switched off the wireless connection on the PC as it kept grabbing that connection when powered up and then the squeezebox stop working as it couldnt connect to the wireless network. Can I take it that I need wireless card in the pc to be turned on for the squeezebox to work? Tony

Re: Squeezebox Duet

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:58 pm
by Sloop John B
Now I understand, sounds interesting, however installing the software on the NAS is something I'd be unaware of how to do, must do a bit of googling.....

thanks

SJB

Re: Squeezebox Duet

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:38 pm
by Fran
tony wrote:Fran just a query I have a squeezebox classic and was using it as you outlined above. I found the wireless internet speed to be poor in the house so wired directly to the modem for the pc. I switched off the wireless connection on the PC as it kept grabbing that connection when powered up and then the squeezebox stop working as it couldnt connect to the wireless network. Can I take it that I need wireless card in the pc to be turned on for the squeezebox to work? Tony
No, not as I understand it - although they seem made to work easier with wireless! You'd need to download the PDF on the setup and have a look, but its definitely in there. I have 3 wireless networks here in the house, my SB3 can see 2 of them and yet it always picks the right one. I used to have it wired too over a power over ethernet system and it worked AOK there. Once its connected via ethernet it should only look for wireless if the ethernet isn't available. Something odd going on there...
Sloop John B wrote:Now I understand, sounds interesting, however installing the software on the NAS is something I'd be unaware of how to do, must do a bit of googling.....

SJB
There is much info out there on using a NAS with it - here's something I found that may help:

http://www.qnap.com/pro_application.asp?ap_id=71


Fran

Re: Squeezebox Duet

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:46 pm
by Fran
There's lots of options setting up the duet.....

You can go wired or wireless. In either case the controller works with wireless to function. If you only have a wired network, the receiver (black box) acts as a wireless repeater for the controller to work. If it can pick up a wireless signal, the controller uses that to connect.

So it can work either way.


SB3 is a bit simpler (only one device, the remote here is just a normal IR remote). Either wired or wireless to the sB3 and that should be it!! Thinking a little longer about it, Tony, I think somehow your SB3 is not staying connected to the modem, so when you start up the SB3 it says, "hey I'm not connected" and goes off searching for a means of connection. That happens me sometime on one of my modems and every now and then I have to reset the modem..... I'm not particularly good on these things so never got to fix it, but it only happens occasionally.


Fran

Re: Squeezebox Duet

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:41 pm
by Sloop John B
Fran wrote:
There is much info out there on using a NAS with it - here's something I found that may help:

http://www.qnap.com/pro_application.asp?ap_id=71


Fran

yes I found that and have downloaded the squeezebox server to the NAS.

I can access the files through a web based interface shown in your above link. However I can't seem to play anything, just see it.

I'd probably be interested on a sale or return basis, i.e. if it works I keep it! -if you're up for that.


SJB

Re: Squeezebox Duet

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:53 pm
by Fran
No problems, feel free to try it.


If you've got it installed and you can see the interface then you're almost there. The server SW won't play anything for you - essentially its just a database. However, you can download a squeezebox emulator (I think its like the transporter) and then you should be getting sounds form your PC/laptop whatever.

This is called softsqueeze and I think its 3rd party, ie not supported by logitech, although it was at one time. Last time I used it, it was a bit clunky, but at least you can test it out.

http://softsqueeze.sourceforge.net/


Sure shoot me a pm and we can arrange to meet up?


Fran

Re: Squeezebox Duet

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:31 am
by Sloop John B
PM sent.


SJB