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Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:25 pm
by Seán
fergus wrote:I came to Schumann very late Paul as it took me many years to come to terms with his music but interestingly I find his chamber music to be most accessible.
Lads, you have identified another gap in my collection.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:52 pm
by fergus
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Fergus listening to Stravinsky who would have thought it? And conducted by Maestro Abbado too. :)
Fergus has a bit of Stravinsky's music in his collection but he prefers the works for smaller forces which are almost Chamber Music-like. An example of this type of music was played earlier today in fact (on vinyl)....


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Fergus also has quite a bit of music conducted by Maestro Abbado but he prefers the Maestro conducting more modern music rather than Baroque or Classical; but these things are very subjective as we all know.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:04 pm
by fergus
As a complete contrast I have just finished listening to some Vivaldi....


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Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:03 pm
by fergus
Seán wrote:
fergus wrote:I came to Schumann very late Paul as it took me many years to come to terms with his music but interestingly I find his chamber music to be most accessible.
Lads, you have identified another gap in my collection.

You have a CD with Schumann's Symphonies 1 & 2 conducted by Kubelik. Personally I think that Kubelik does a great job with the Schumann Symphonies and I have that one and the Kubelik versions of Schumann's 3rd and 4th Symphonies in my collection also. That is a good place to start methinks.

However, as I said earlier, I find Schumann's Chamber Music appealing and I finish off this evening with Schumann's Piano Quintet from this CD....


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This is a wonderfully played live CD but then I suppose that Argerich would accept nothing less than perfection from those with whom she was playing!

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:44 pm
by Jose Echenique
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Not since Nézet-Séguin´s own 2011 Don Giovanni has there been a Mozart opera recording in the Universal labels. How rare in these sad days to see an opera recording that comes in a card box and has a 200 page libretto.
Cosí fan Tutte is probably the best served of all operas on disc. I have some 30 studio recordings and none is disappointing, let alone bad. Nézet-Séguin faces formidable competition from such Classic recordings as Karajan´s, 3 valuable Böhm versions in Decca, EMI and DG, Jochum´s, Solti´s (his first recording), René Jacobs´and many others.
His approach, like in the Don Giovanni is pretty much period-concious: almost no vibrato, fast tempi, but not as many appoggiaturas as was common in Mozart´s time. The Chamber Orchestra of Europe is an excellent band for Mozart, Solti also used them in his second DECCA recording, but they seem much more comfortable under Nézet-Séguin and his period manners.
I pity any soprano who records Fiordiligi, since she will inevitably be compared with legendary divas like Lisa della Casa, Sena Jurinac and Gundula Janowitz. Swedish soprano Miah Persson has made a specialty of the role, she already appears in 2 different Blu Ray productions. She is a good looking woman, and her voice is interesting but not really outstanding. Some high notes tend to spread, especially in "Come scoglio", but this is a very secure and confident interpretation from a technical point of view. What I miss is more tension in her performance, she goes through all the whirlwind of emotions sounding more or less the same. Maybe sex and betrayal are not a big deal in Sweden. Lisa della Casa sounds more vulnerable and ravishing at the same time, and even closer to us Lella Cuberli (Barenboim) and Véronique Gens (Jacobs) have far finer voices. I don´t know if Joyce DiDonato has Fiordiligi in her repertoire, but she could certainly sing the role, I´m sure if she had been chosen for the recording we would have a more treasurable performance.
Angela Brower as Dorabella is also very good and cannot be faulted, but as soon as you turn to Teresa Berganza (Solti) or even the young Cecilia Bartoli (Barenboim) you immediately notice greater voices and more endearing personalities.
I am definitely NOT a fan of Mojca Erdmann, her Despina is pert and cute but uninteresting, you just have to turn to Lucia Popp (Klemperer), Jane Berbié (Solti) or Ileana Cotrubas (Colin Davis) to see how much more is in the role.
The gentlemen are overall much more satisfactory. Rolando Villazón in spite of some pain with the high tessitura presents a very lively and alive Ferrando, and he also brings much needed involvement with the text. Adam Plachetka has a most handsome lyric baritone in the Rolando Panerai mould, his suave and elegant delivery is a pleasure. Alessandro Corbelli may not be in the class of Sesto Bruscantini or Gabriel Bacquier, but you always need an Italian in the Da Ponte operas, and he is a classy Don Alfonso.
A very enjoyable recording recorded live in concert form in Baden-Baden.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:04 pm
by Seán
fergus wrote:
Seán wrote:
fergus wrote:I came to Schumann very late Paul as it took me many years to come to terms with his music but interestingly I find his chamber music to be most accessible.
Lads, you have identified another gap in my collection.

You have a CD with Schumann's Symphonies 1 & 2 conducted by Kubelik. Personally I think that Kubelik does a great job with the Schumann Symphonies and I have that one and the Kubelik versions of Schumann's 3rd and 4th Symphonies in my collection also. That is a good place to start methinks.
Hi Fergus, I have no shortage of recordings of Schumann's symphonies, I have the following splendid complete sets: Chailly/Gewandhausorchester {Mahler Edition]; Sawallisch/Staatskapelle Dresden [superb set]; Szell/Cleveland; Bernstein/NYPO; Bernstein/VPO and misc recordings by Kubelik and Masur.
However, as I said earlier, I find Schumann's Chamber Music appealing and I finish off this evening with Schumann's Piano Quintet from this CD....


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This is a wonderfully played live CD but then I suppose that Argerich would accept nothing less than perfection from those with whom she was playing!
I was referring to his chamber music as I only have his piano trios, quartets and quintets with the wonderful Beaux Arts Trio and piano pieces by the superb Klára Würtz. I have often wondered about Ms Argerich box sets.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:17 pm
by Seán
Jose Echenique wrote:
Not since Nézet-Séguin´s own 2011 Don Giovanni has there been a Mozart opera recording in the Universal labels. How rare in these sad days to see an opera recording that comes in a card box and has a 200 page libretto.
Cosí fan Tutte is probably the best served of all operas on disc. I have some 30 studio recordings and none is disappointing, let alone bad. Nézet-Séguin faces formidable competition from such Classic recordings as Karajan´s, 3 valuable Böhm versions in Decca, EMI and DG, Jochum´s, Solti´s (his first recording), René Jacobs´and many others.
His approach, like in the Don Giovanni is pretty much period-concious: almost no vibrato, fast tempi, but not as many appoggiaturas as was common in Mozart´s time. The Chamber Orchestra of Europe is an excellent band for Mozart, Solti also used them in his second DECCA recording, but they seem much more comfortable under Nézet-Séguin and his period manners.
I pity any soprano who records Fiordiligi, since she will inevitably be compared with legendary divas like Lisa della Casa, Sena Jurinac and Gundula Janowitz. Swedish soprano Miah Persson has made a specialty of the role, she already appears in 2 different Blu Ray productions. She is a good looking woman, and her voice is interesting but not really outstanding. Some high notes tend to spread, especially in "Come scoglio", but this is a very secure and confident interpretation from a technical point of view. What I miss is more tension in her performance, she goes through all the whirlwind of emotions sounding more or less the same. Maybe sex and betrayal are not a big deal in Sweden. Lisa della Casa sounds more vulnerable and ravishing at the same time, and even closer to us Lella Cuberli (Barenboim) and Véronique Gens (Jacobs) have far finer voices. I don´t know if Joyce DiDonato has Fiordiligi in her repertoire, but she could certainly sing the role, I´m sure if she had been chosen for the recording we would have a more treasurable performance.
Angela Brower as Dorabella is also very good and cannot be faulted, but as soon as you turn to Teresa Berganza (Solti) or even the young Cecilia Bartoli (Barenboim) you immediately notice greater voices and more endearing personalities.
I am definitely NOT a fan of Mojca Erdmann, her Despina is pert and cute but uninteresting, you just have to turn to Lucia Popp (Klemperer), Jane Berbié (Solti) or Ileana Cotrubas (Colin Davis) to see how much more is in the role.
The gentlemen are overall much more satisfactory. Rolando Villazón in spite of some pain with the high tessitura presents a very lively and alive Ferrando, and he also brings much needed involvement with the text. Adam Plachetka has a most handsome lyric baritone in the Rolando Panerai mould, his suave and elegant delivery is a pleasure. Alessandro Corbelli may not be in the class of Sesto Bruscantini or Gabriel Bacquier, but you always need an Italian in the Da Ponte operas, and he is a classy Don Alfonso.
A very enjoyable recording recorded live in concert form in Baden-Baden.
Hello Pepe, welcome back, your post was well worth waiting for.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:23 pm
by Jose Echenique
Thank you Seán, I hope you enjoyed it.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:05 pm
by fergus
Seán wrote: I was referring to his chamber music as I only have his piano trios, quartets and quintets with the wonderful Beaux Arts Trio and piano pieces by the superb Klára Würtz. I have often wondered about Ms Argerich box sets.

I think that you are very well served there Seán and I do not think that you should feel that you have a gap there....unless you feel the need to fill your shelves with lots more LOL!

Far be it from me to actually recommend any Pianist but Martha Argerich is the consumate professional and has never disappointed in anything that I have heard; her versions of the first two Beethoven Piano Concertos are probably my favourite. The problem with Argerich as you know is her reluctance to record, preferring live concert work so it may be difficult to find a recording of her performing something specific if you wish it.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:07 pm
by fergus
Other than various JS Bach Cantatas this is my Lithurgical offering (on vinyl) for today....


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....for no other reason other than that it is great music!