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Re: Build a dedicated Audio PC
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 12:45 pm
by Fran
Other than re-casing it, I haven't done much else. The next thing I want to try is to make a little header to fit on the on-board usb3 pins so I can leave the usb stick inside the box and have another slot free at the back.
Haven't tried to use renesas drivers on the Intel chip yet...
Fran
Re: Build a dedicated Audio PC
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 1:27 pm
by nige2000
Fran wrote:Other than re-casing it, I haven't done much else. The next thing I want to try is to make a little header to fit on the on-board usb3 pins so I can leave the usb stick inside the box and have another slot free at the back.
Haven't tried to use renesas drivers on the Intel chip yet...
Fran
best to use all usb 3 for music storage, WTG and DAC
heres a couple of interal usb3 header adapters
i dont know if there any good
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/2-Port-USB-3-0-t ... 1889wt_984
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Sharkoon-interna ... 2937wt_758
my motherboard was one of the first ones on the market with usb3 theres no internal headers unfourtunetly.
Re: Build a dedicated Audio PC
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:21 am
by nige2000
jkeny wrote:Nige, a question that you might be able to answer - the NUC has two PCIe mini-card connectors on it to support mSata & Wifi cards - are the connectors the same on your PCIe USB3 card? Any reason why it would not work on the NUC if it could physically be accommodated? I'm thinking along the lines of reboxing the NUC & maybe using a cable to connect this USB3 card to the PCIe connectors on the NUC board.
heres some other options which might be simpler:
http://www.speeddragon.com/index.php?co ... nfo&Id=416
but i cant see where to buy it in europe
and this
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Mini-PCI-e-USB-3 ... 707wt_1053
and i kinda like the look of this one:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Mini-PCI-e-USB-3 ... 509wt_1053
Re: Build a dedicated Audio PC
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:45 pm
by jkeny
Thanks Nige, that first one is perfect but unobtanium, it appears?
So far your ebay card is the best option when combined with a mini PCIe to PCIe adapter & cable.
Of course, all this may not work with the Intel NUC as it only has 2 PCI-e slots - a half-card WiFi slot & full card slot for SSDs. I don't know if either of these can be redeployed to other uses such as adapter card for USB3 ports?
Re: Build a dedicated Audio PC
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:35 pm
by nige2000
jkeny wrote:
Thanks Nige, that first one is perfect but unobtanium, it appears?
So far your ebay card is the best option when combined with a mini PCIe to PCIe adapter & cable.
Of course, all this may not work with the Intel NUC as it only has 2 PCI-e slots - a half-card WiFi slot & full card slot for SSDs. I don't know if either of these can be redeployed to other uses such as adapter card for USB3 ports?
the mini pcie slots are are smaller version of pcie slots, it wont matter if its a wifi card, ssd, ethernet adapter, usb adapter etc. they will all work (unless they are defective of course)
only thing is the half mini pcie card slot wont fit a full card and thats because of its length there too long to fit other than that theres no difference between the half and full slots.
Re: Build a dedicated Audio PC
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:44 pm
by jkeny
nige2000 wrote:
the mini pcie slots are are smaller version of pcie slots, it wont matter if its a wifi card, ssd, ethernet adapter, usb adapter etc. they will all work (unless they are defective of course)
only thing is the half mini pcie card slot wont fit a full card and thats because of its length there too long to fit other than that theres no difference between the half and full slots.
Yea, I thought that but then came across posts where using a mini PCI-e card would not work in some mini PCI-e Wifi slots & I also came across this compatibility chart
http://www.globalamericaninc.com/pdfdoc ... ss_Ref.pdf
These set me thinking but I won't know until I try it anyway!
Something about Bios whitelisting needing to be available for the Mini PCI-e port
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienwa ... -card.html
Re: Build a dedicated Audio PC
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:53 pm
by nige2000
jkeny wrote:nige2000 wrote:
the mini pcie slots are are smaller version of pcie slots, it wont matter if its a wifi card, ssd, ethernet adapter, usb adapter etc. they will all work (unless they are defective of course)
only thing is the half mini pcie card slot wont fit a full card and thats because of its length there too long to fit other than that theres no difference between the half and full slots.
Yea, I thought that but then came across posts where using a mini PCI-e card would not work in some mini PCI-e Wifi slots & I also came across this compatibility chart
http://www.globalamericaninc.com/pdfdoc ... ss_Ref.pdf
These set me thinking but I won't know until I try it anyway!
Something about Bios whitelisting needing to be available for the Mini PCI-e port
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienwa ... -card.html
just thinking about what i was reading there was giving me a pain in the head
What the options are
you could get a adapter and
a: it doesnt work = waste of money
B1: it works and theres a SQ improvement
B2: it works but no improvement over usb2= waste of time and money
the odds aren't fantastic
ive tried several things to try and improve SQ, only some of them worked, i didn't bother posting about them
and ive got boxes of parts used for experimenting some get reused some dont, sometimes i think i prefer the journey rather than the destination
suppose it depends if you think its worth the risk
nige
Re: Build a dedicated Audio PC
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:45 pm
by jkeny
I know, Nige, I have the same box of parts, circuits, etc as a result of my experiments in audio - guess I'm creating another box for computers now.
In my research I came across this 4 port USB3 card which has an individual driver chip for each port i.e very high bandwith
http://www.everythingusb.com/highpoint- ... 21274.html = costs about $100 though
I wonder if this would be another step forward sonically? I'll post on Jplay & see what they make of it - maybe Marcin will try it as he is known to experiment & cost is not a deterrent to him .
Re: Build a dedicated Audio PC
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:19 am
by nige2000
jkeny wrote:I know, Nige, I have the same box of parts, circuits, etc as a result of my experiments in audio - guess I'm creating another box for computers now.
In my research I came across this 4 port USB3 card which has an individual driver chip for each port i.e very high bandwith
http://www.everythingusb.com/highpoint- ... 21274.html = costs about $100 though
I wonder if this would be another step forward sonically? I'll post on Jplay & see what they make of it - maybe Marcin will try it as he is known to experiment & cost is not a deterrent to him .
i came across that usb3 card too, best price i found was amazon @ £75 with free delivery i could get a four port motherboard matx for €130
it would be getting pricy, id like to test it (along with alot of other things)
Re: Build a dedicated Audio PC
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:22 am
by jkeny
Yea, the other problem with it seems to be that the USB ports are too close together for USB sticks to sit side by side!!