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Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:02 pm
by jkeny
erin wrote: Wow, brief low level? I hear it about as loud as the note being played! (in the right chanel) To me it sounds like a worn out old master tape that someone spilled their toast with jam on it! Do you have the LP? Is the sound on the LP?
Yea, it does not sound like a natural noise, does it?
Do you hear it with SSE2 dqa though?

No, I don't have the LP only the CD from which this was extracted using EAC.
I think I may have also, over time tried DBpoweramp extraction too but with the same result.
Also have listened to other download, including a 24/96 version & it has the same anomaly

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:04 pm
by Aleg
nige2000 wrote:
hi Aleg

are you using Audiophils script?

i agree that theres a reduction of soundstage with this 2.66 sse2 dqa dqa compared to the best of the sse4's

On my destop system I have no optimisations at the moment. Apart from disabling the HPET and System Timer discussed yesterday.
It is running a 2012 in GUI mode.
On my main system I have run CAD's optimisation script as adapted for 2012 by Pearse.

Cheers

Aleg

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:09 pm
by jkeny
Hold on - I just went back & played it again to check my assertion.
I can now hear the same noise (but not as pronounced) in SSE2 dqa. Couldn't hear it last night
Ah crap, I thought this version of MQN had eliminated it almost completely & it would be a good tester for audibility & measurements!

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:15 pm
by nige2000
Aleg wrote:
nige2000 wrote:
hi Aleg

are you using Audiophils script?

i agree that theres a reduction of soundstage with this 2.66 sse2 dqa dqa compared to the best of the sse4's

On my destop system I have no optimisations at the moment. Apart from disabling the HPET and System Timer discussed yesterday.
It is running a 2012 in GUI mode.
On my main system I have run CAD's optimisation script as adapted for 2012 by Pearse.

Cheers

Aleg
did you try phils script then decide other ways are better?

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:23 pm
by erin
A while ago I reported that 2.53 sounded really good. It has huge deep bass, and is the smoothest version I have heard.

sbgk tried it and said it was grainy. I have just figured out why. For 2.53 to sound its best, it requires mqncontrol 2 core affinity original version - not V2, to sound best.

Bearing in mind I am listening on a celeron 2 core CPU. Can anyone else download my entire MQN 2.53 folder and listen to this version again. I'm fairly sure you will be impressed. It has got bigger deeper, and more tonal bass than the latest versions and is very silky in the top end. Link is here

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:33 pm
by erin
jkeny wrote:
Do you hear it with SSE2 dqa though?
Sure did. Loud and clear. Tried it on 2.53, and it was less pronounced.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:30 pm
by sbgk
uploaded 2 more 2.66 sse2 versions which use 2 cache lines, think this gives a fuller sound, think the mfence one sounds best

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:48 pm
by erin
sbgk wrote:uploaded 2 more 2.66 sse2 versions which use 2 cache lines, think this gives a fuller sound, think the mfence one sounds best
2.66 sse2 mfence has really nice midrange clarity, without the slightly "forced" sound that 2.66 SSE2 dqa dqa has in comparison. This version has the smoothness that I like, with clarity and natural tone.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:00 pm
by erin
Just my opinion.

2.66 sse2 intel dqa dqa 2cl, and 2.66 sse2 intel dqa dqa, emphasize the leading edge of notes and have an upward tonal slant. 2.66 sse2 intel dqa dqa 2c does not have the midrange clarity of 2.66 sse2 intel dqa dqa 2cl mfence.

mfence is very clear, and does not over emphasize the leading edge of notes.

By getting rid of the over emphasis, you have also gotten rid of the upward (treble) tonal slant.

This is a very nice version. Well done!

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:30 pm
by LowOrbit
Sat here listening to the mfence SSE2 version posted earlier today.

Have to agree with erin - very easy to listen to and very open sounding.

Need to go back and try a couple of earlier versions because I rebuilt my audio pc (moved to linear and pico etx supplies, ssd OS - all passively cooled and silent) so some of the change in character may be ascribed to that.

Mark

(P.S. SBGK - not wishing to bug you or appear ungrateful for the bounteous red book replay - any luck with the 24bit version?)