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Re: MQN

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 2:43 pm
by Aleg
MQn still easily holds its ground against wtfplay, also the latest 0.5.
Prefer the MQn with 44/16 against all the highres versions using wtfplay.

Are you planning to do any further developments, like highres?
That should be able to become mind boggling.

Cheers

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:04 pm
by jrling
Interesting. I am taking from your result that WTFPlay, in only its 5th release, holds its own against MQn; seems like you were impressed.
I would be interested in your opinion comparing 16/44.1 WAV on both players? I find 16/44.1, which is mostly what I own, can sound better than many of my hi-res recordings on WTFPlay.

Also did you try playing with the settings for Period, Frame and Priority on WTFPlay - they can make a useful improvement when tuned to your rig's preferences.
Lastly which of the 4 Kernels did you use for the comparison WTF 13, 14, 15 or 16?

Thanks.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:33 pm
by sbgk
jrling wrote:Interesting. I am taking from your result that WTFPlay, in only its 5th release, holds its own against MQn; seems like you were impressed.
I would be interested in your opinion comparing 16/44.1 WAV on both players? I find 16/44.1, which is mostly what I own, can sound better than many of my hi-res recordings on WTFPlay.

Also did you try playing with the settings for Period, Frame and Priority on WTFPlay - they can make a useful improvement when tuned to your rig's preferences.
Lastly which of the 4 Kernels did you use for the comparison WTF 13, 14, 15 or 16?

Thanks.
Why isn't there a secret player listening impressions thread ?

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:35 pm
by sbgk
Aleg wrote:MQn still easily holds its ground against wtfplay, also the latest 0.5.
Prefer the MQn with 44/16 against all the highres versions using wtfplay.

Are you planning to do any further developments, like highres?
That should be able to become mind boggling.

Cheers
Will have a go, seems it will be a while before players are obsolete.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:19 am
by sbgk
uploaded play v264, compiled with new version of visual studio. Unexpected lift in SQ results, lovely extended treble and better detail. Uses exactly the same code and settings as v263.

uploaded loader v107/control v118/rewrite v52. A bit brighter sounding.

uploaded v108/v119/v53/v264 which restores the balance, still great detail and attack with the new version of vs, but not so fierce in the treble.

on the question of whether mqn is better than secret player, mqn has control of the instruction pipeline, code alignment, register use and is interacting directly with the driver, that's not going to happen with ALSA and the sq is always going to be compromised. I also have a suspicion that windows scheduling is more advanced than linux which makes it sound less harsh.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 3:39 pm
by Aleg
Gordon

Your latest version (when also using the new rewrite version) is absolutely amazingly good.
It is really mesmerising, listening to the album "Tokyo Adagio" by Charlie Haden and Gonzalo Rubalcaba, even though I had to downsample it to 44/16.

I keep wondering how it might sound in its original high res, hope you find the time to get a 96/24 version out (and more resolutions if possible).

Cheers

Re: MQN

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:15 pm
by pink
you can setup desired scheduler in kernel, including BFS one from http://users.tpg.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ after patching the kernel

that`s superior over windows, you have choice against you have what you have;-)

Re: MQN

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:43 pm
by sbgk
Aleg wrote:Gordon

Your latest version (when also using the new rewrite version) is absolutely amazingly good.
It is really mesmerising, listening to the album "Tokyo Adagio" by Charlie Haden and Gonzalo Rubalcaba, even though I had to downsample it to 44/16.

I keep wondering how it might sound in its original high res, hope you find the time to get a 96/24 version out (and more resolutions if possible).

Cheers
mostly down to vs. Shall work on hirez this week.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:56 pm
by sbgk
pink wrote:you can setup desired scheduler in kernel, including BFS one from http://users.tpg.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ after patching the kernel

that`s superior over windows, you have choice against you have what you have;-)
sorry, does not parse.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 6:25 am
by Aleg
sbgk wrote:
Aleg wrote:Gordon

Your latest version (when also using the new rewrite version) is absolutely amazingly good.
It is really mesmerising, listening to the album "Tokyo Adagio" by Charlie Haden and Gonzalo Rubalcaba, even though I had to downsample it to 44/16.

I keep wondering how it might sound in its original high res, hope you find the time to get a 96/24 version out (and more resolutions if possible).

Cheers
mostly down to vs. Shall work on hirez this week.

Hi Gordon

Do you already have something that we can test for high-res or are you still working on it?