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Re: MQN

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:37 am
by sima66
elaprince wrote:
Gordon after listening to your newest and greatest ever version I still can feel the goose bumps
This is nothing like anything out there
To be honest I went and try BHE and I can safely say that your player is 100 light years ahead
After v123 I though can anything be better? And again you prove it that it can
Anyone following this amazing project give yourself a favor and please listen
I think now you can really stop and call this a REFERENCE
Thank you
Than must be your lucky day when you were introduced to MQn........very, very lucky day!!!

Re: MQN

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:18 pm
by iori
v124 matches very well with w10 enterprise LTSB mildly optimized with just some services disabled. While analytical, tonal balance does'nt have a sense of edge.
seems 35Mb is the upper limit on file size, then playback stops.

there is no file size limitation in r2 core.

Re: MQN

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:04 am
by sbgk
uploaded control v38 and play v125, they should be used together, just tuning a new setting which I haven't used before.

still a bit of work on play and counter to come which should improve things further.

Re: MQN

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:07 am
by sbgk
iori wrote:v124 matches very well with w10 enterprise LTSB mildly optimized with just some services disabled. While analytical, tonal balance does'nt have a sense of edge.
seems 35Mb is the upper limit on file size, then playback stops.

there is no file size limitation in r2 core.
don't know why that should be, am playing 90 mb file ok.

Re: MQN

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:16 am
by sbgk
elaprince wrote: Gordon after listening to your newest and greatest ever version I still can feel the goose bumps
This is nothing like anything out there
To be honest I went and try BHE and I can safely say that your player is 100 light years ahead
After v123 I though can anything be better? And again you prove it that it can
Anyone following this amazing project give yourself a favor and please listen
I think now you can really stop and call this a REFERENCE
Thank you
never tried BHE, he believes playback removes something that can be added back in by altering the data. I believe the data is ok and the playback needs to be improved. He uses a basic compiler so control over how the code is running is less. He also says some registers sound better than others which is a bit limiting.

Re: MQN

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:26 pm
by sbgk
uploaded play v126 and control v39 (should be used together), a return to form, optimised the counter loop think there is an improvement in sq as a result, everything sounds in the correct place, very good echo and sounds musical. There is such good detail retrieval with these versions that it can be exhausting to listen to, but this version seems to bring it together musically.

Think the setting I was trying before added too much digital noise, might try it with another method.

so it seems that having the minimum amount of code in the render loop is best, even moving the counting out to another exe improves things. The render loop now consists of 2 waits and 2 io function calls and some move instructions to move values from registers to registers, which are required for the function calls. Modern cpus remove the moves by register renaming, so basically it's :-

wait 1
load buffer 1
wait 2
load buffer 2

if that was happening in kernel space it would be better, but as it is it sounds very good. Still a bit of optimisation to do, but the end is in sight.

Re: MQN

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:59 am
by sbgk
play v127 and control v40 should be used together, managed to apply the setting without adding digital noise, does turbocharge the sound a bit, amazing presence and detail. Shall see if it's a keeper.

Re: MQN

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:03 pm
by janh
Listening to mqnplay v124 - v127 with their controls.
v124 I like least, it has less detail/clarity.
v126 -fine, but a little too much echo/reverb for my taste, piano can sound a bit widescreen.
I like v127 best.

Cheers
Jan H.

Re: MQN

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:08 pm
by sbgk
yup, agree with v127.

uploaded v128 and control v41 based on v127, should be used together, this one forces a calculation into kernel mode I think, seems better.

Got to say think that's the best yet, great bass articulation, detail, reverb, echo etc. Sounds like listening to some serious hifi.

Shall call that the last iteration and next release will be a finished version.

v128 was too digital, detail fine.

uploaded v129/v41 which uses an alternative setting that doesn't require calculations. Sounded ok on first listen, treble maybe reduced a bit.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:38 pm
by sbgk
Will there be an Irish presence at Scalford this year ? MQn might be finished by then.