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Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:07 am
by TioFrancotirdor
elaprince wrote:I think everyone here is waiting for non Haswell version I can safely say
Thank you for update Gordon
Well I do not think everyone. At least I don't. :)
I'd rather wait for fixed device version with "wait function" working on 2012 R2.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:16 am
by John Dot
sbgk wrote:
elaprince wrote:Just to see if there is any new updates?
Thanks
need to get win 8.1 working so will do a non haswell win 8.1 build with device fix and multitrack. still think best sq might still be with fixed device.
Great news. Thank you.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:05 pm
by sbgk
TioFrancotirdor wrote:
elaprince wrote:I think everyone here is waiting for non Haswell version I can safely say
Thank you for update Gordon
Well I do not think everyone. At least I don't. :)
I'd rather wait for fixed device version with "wait function" working on 2012 R2.
So were all the people with cpu at 25% using win 2012 r2 ? Anyone using win 8.1. Think Lekt said that the syscall was 1 higher for 2012 r2 so could try an 2012 r2 build.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:17 pm
by sbgk
Seems that the wdm driver has a queue mechanism for when it receives more IRPs than it can handle , so I'm guessing that's what is happening when the wait is failing. The driver queues the outstanding IRPs. Think the sq is still best when it is in this mode, just the system becomes unresponsive and memory use shoots up to 80 % for some reason.

Shall try queuing different amounts of IRPs with the occasional wait to keep it under control to see if we can have the best of both worlds.

Potentially this means a short burst of activity to load the 1000 IRPs then less activity for the wait which might be beneficial. Also can try bigger buffers so less user to kernel switching.

I like the idea that the IRP is already available in a queue ready for the driver to use rather relying on timing interrupts to get it from the user client.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:44 pm
by Aleg
sbgk wrote:
TioFrancotirdor wrote:
elaprince wrote:I think everyone here is waiting for non Haswell version I can safely say
Thank you for update Gordon
Well I do not think everyone. At least I don't. :)
I'd rather wait for fixed device version with "wait function" working on 2012 R2.
So were all the people with cpu at 25% using win 2012 r2 ? Anyone using win 8.1. Think Lekt said that the syscall was 1 higher for 2012 r2 so could try an 2012 r2 build.
I believe so. I don't recall anyone not using 2012R2 reporting this issue.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:51 pm
by Octagon
sbgk wrote: Think the sq is still best when it is in this mode, just the system becomes unresponsive and memory use shoots up to 80 % for some reason.
Hi Gordon,

Please keep in mind not all R2 Server 2012 "shoot up". At least mine didn't as mentioned in my feedback before. My idea would be that the used dll of the Server versions might be different and have different behaviour? My latest testing has been based on AO1.31b8. With the update of AO to 1.31 system dll's have been updated to actual versions.

I have had experiences like that with internal changes of the R2 Server 2012 versions before. One might check that without AO if you download the latest Iso from MS as these Iso versions are always updated.

Unfortunately I have no possibility to verify that in the next days, maybe someone else could give it a try?

Thank's
Thomas

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:23 pm
by grisaia
As a haswell owner I'd rather like longer device string in mqnplay file to be able to create my own specific version. So many improvements being discussed and I cant try any of them :/

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:58 pm
by Aleg
Octagon wrote:
sbgk wrote: Think the sq is still best when it is in this mode, just the system becomes unresponsive and memory use shoots up to 80 % for some reason.
Hi Gordon,

Please keep in mind not all R2 Server 2012 "shoot up". At least mine didn't as mentioned in my feedback before. My idea would be that the used dll of the Server versions might be different and have different behaviour? My latest testing has been based on AO1.31b8. With the update of AO to 1.31 system dll's have been updated to actual versions.

I have had experiences like that with internal changes of the R2 Server 2012 versions before. One might check that without AO if you download the latest Iso from MS as these Iso versions are always updated.

Unfortunately I have no possibility to verify that in the next days, maybe someone else could give it a try?

Thank's
Thomas
I have not heared of 2012R2 users whose memory has shot up, only that PCU went up to 25% of higher depending on affinity settings.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:01 pm
by sbgk
uploaded a win 2012 r2 version which uses the wait method, has an extra long dev name.

does 1002 IRPs for each wait, takes a few seconds to terminate using task mgr.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:54 pm
by Aleg
sbgk wrote:uploaded a win 2012 r2 version which uses the wait method, has an extra long dev name.

does 1002 IRPs for each wait, takes a few seconds to terminate using task mgr.
This is a terrific version.
Sound is superb

No more issues with high CPU ( remains on zero in taskmanager) and stop is immediate.

Cheers