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Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:57 am
by jrling
sima66 - Second, why makes you to think that you are more grateful for this player than myself or anybody else?! Just because you are afraid that Gordon will take a brake?!
I don't know about you, but I follow this tread and MQn even from the CA days and I fought for Gordon when he was wrongfully attacked and I still will!
But, if you think that for every new version, being that even worst that the previous, you have to applaud and cheer, just because you don't see the difference or not to offend somebody, that's not the right way for me!
Just to correct your misinformation -
I was one of the first to follow MQn and did a lot of testing for Gordon one to one before he opened it out.
I also supported him on CA.
I do not applaud or cheer every new version. I do detect the differences for better or for worse. In fact many of them are worse than before and I will say so and have done. But that's fine by me, because this is a journey into the unknown by Gordon's admission, and he finds the way forward by making mistakes.

My point was that followers harping back to old WASAPI versions that Gordon has said he will not be going back to, is unproductive and would be better done on a separate thread, leaving this thread to KS.

That's my view, but that should not stop you following Gordon in your own way and I hope that you will continue to do so.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:06 am
by sbgk
jesuscheung wrote:v53 is better again. all things better

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shall check it out.
what is there is to say about fidelizer?
put lemon juice in rice like Jamie Oliver.
thought it was a coincidence that he visited here recently and now he's got a new version out.

so v53 is getting close to a dma player in that it's just handing off the ram buffer to the device driver in 2 packets, the device driver then copies it to the device via dma.

next is to write the wdm ks code directly in mqnplay and add some parameters. would be interesting to see what the lowest latency is now.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:12 am
by nige2000
sbgk wrote:
jesuscheung wrote:v53 is better again. all things better

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shall check it out.
what is there is to say about fidelizer?
put lemon juice in rice like Jamie Oliver.
thought it was a coincidence that he visited here recently and now he's got a new version out.

so v53 is getting close to a dma player in that it's just handing off the ram buffer to the device driver in 2 packets, the device driver then copies it to the device via dma.

next is to write the wdm ks code directly in mqnplay and add some parameters. would be interesting to see what the lowest latency is now.
Cool

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:14 am
by sbgk
jrling wrote:
sima66 - Second, why makes you to think that you are more grateful for this player than myself or anybody else?! Just because you are afraid that Gordon will take a brake?!
I don't know about you, but I follow this tread and MQn even from the CA days and I fought for Gordon when he was wrongfully attacked and I still will!
But, if you think that for every new version, being that even worst that the previous, you have to applaud and cheer, just because you don't see the difference or not to offend somebody, that's not the right way for me!
Just to correct your misinformation -
I was one of the first to follow MQn and did a lot of testing for Gordon one to one before he opened it out.
I also supported him on CA.
I do not applaud or cheer every new version. I do detect the differences for better or for worse. In fact many of them are worse than before and I will say so and have done. But that's fine by me, because this is a journey into the unknown by Gordon's admission, and he finds the way forward by making mistakes.

My point was that followers harping back to old WASAPI versions that Gordon has said he will not be going back to, is unproductive and would be better done on a separate thread, leaving this thread to KS.

That's my view, but that should not stop you following Gordon in your own way and I hope that you will continue to do so.
hopefully that ends that particular episode.

JIrling provided the main feedback during the initial development when the compile and linker settings were being tested. So thanks to him and everyone else who has commented.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:43 pm
by cvrle59
"My point was that followers harping back to old WASAPI versions that Gordon has said he will not be going back to, is unproductive and would be better done on a separate thread, leaving this thread to KS."
First of all, nobody here including me is not asking Gordon to go back to WASAPI at all. If you find anything that would say so, slap me right away, please. I probably missed something somewhere.
Second of all, this thread was about WASAPI for ages, just recently KS, and for some limited time JLP, so why would someone not be able here to mention WASAPI, why would you think it is unproductive? Why do you think that your opinion is the absolute, and if you say that some KS version is the best, it is really the best? Where is that confidence coming from?

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:51 pm
by sbgk
uploaded portaudio v54

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:57 pm
by sbgk
cvrle59 wrote:"My point was that followers harping back to old WASAPI versions that Gordon has said he will not be going back to, is unproductive and would be better done on a separate thread, leaving this thread to KS."
First of all, nobody here including me is not asking Gordon to go back to WASAPI at all. If you find anything that would say so, slap me right away, please. I probably missed something somewhere.
Second of all, this thread was about WASAPI for ages, just recently KS, and for some limited time JLP, so why would someone not be able here to mention WASAPI, why would you think it is unproductive? Why do you think that you opinion is absolute, and if you say that some KS version is the best, it is really the best? Where is that confidence coming from?
please just let it go, we've already established that the premise of Jon's comment was based on the misreading of a joke.

any comments about the latest version ?

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:17 pm
by Clive
V53 and V54 sound very free and open. V54 has a more fleshed out sound stage. Both versions truncate tracks a few secs early.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:24 pm
by Clive
I just checked a wasapi version. That's trucating too. Hmm...need to work out why.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:26 pm
by jrling
sbgk wrote:
please just let it go, we've already established that the premise of Jon's comment was based on the misreading of a joke.
Absolutely. Peace to anyone I have inadvertently upset.