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Re: lekt player

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:41 am
by jesuscheung
2.41.2 Fibonacci
-good old Fibonacci has top transparent sound! emotion is intense! think it feels natural
-very smooth. less vibration.

need more time to compare.

Re: lekt player

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:31 pm
by jesuscheung
-maybe fibonacci has better soundstage than 2.40.2.
-fibonacci has mellower treble when 2.40x can sound like hard treble.
-2.40x has better vocal. only because 2.40.1 has better vocal vibration/detail and more positive tune.
-2.40x maybe more free than fibonacci.
-2.41x has best vibration.

difficult to choose.
still like 2.40.1 best. soundstage is "first person", simple and big. vibration/free/open/air/rich/musical nuance/emotion/tune everything is enough. 2.40.1 just focus on music

Re: lekt player

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:47 pm
by lekt
uploaded v2.42 256
used new counter, tried keep vibration (a bit better) and improved bass. good vocal focus. enjoy!

Re: lekt player

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:06 am
by jesuscheung
lekt wrote:uploaded v2.42 256
used new counter, tried keep vibration (a bit better) and improved bass. good vocal focus. enjoy!
2.42 sounds like brother of 2.20 to 2.23. high micro vibration but mellowed(little weak) power. less density so piano notes less solid.

seems getting more challenging to find correct sound.

in general for all versions, i think vocal emotion is about 99-100%. vocal detail is about 98-99%.
-maybe try increase vibration at easily hard trebles? (fibonacci is best at this)
-also increase vocal vibration? i think these two things can improve a lot.
-for now, maybe just use 2.40.1's simple soundstage. i feel the simpler the soundstage, the less the problems.

Re: lekt player

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:30 am
by jesuscheung
after installing Visual C++ Redistributable 2012 Update 4, v2.42 sounds different. better! much better than this morning! do you have VS2013 installed already?
(i had update3)

my machine keeps changing sound. can't make accurate judgement anymore. need to finish this svchost tweak quickly.

Re: lekt player

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:55 am
by lekt
jesuscheung wrote:after installing Visual C++ Redistributable 2012 Update 4, v2.42 sounds different. better! much better than this morning! do you have VS2013 installed already?
(i had update3)

my machine keeps changing sound. can't make accurate judgement anymore. need to finish this svchost tweak quickly.
people says win8.1 sound good ~ ws2012. think will setup win8.1/vs2013 later.

Re: lekt player

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:01 am
by jesuscheung
no. don't use 8.1/R2! much worse.

under same tweaks
2012>R2. (in my case 20% better)

don't make me use R2 haha. it is difficult enough to tweak 2012. R2 has much much more crap to deal with.

Re: lekt player

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:05 am
by jesuscheung
uninstalled C++ update4... impressive at first. better bass/vibration. less mellow/emotion. better background music clarity. messed up my soundstage. width +5% than norm. don't know why.

Re: lekt player

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:36 pm
by lekt
jesuscheung wrote:...in general for all versions, i think vocal emotion is about 99-100%. vocal detail is about 98-99%.
-maybe try increase vibration at easily hard trebles? (fibonacci is best at this)
-also increase vocal vibration? i think these two things can improve a lot.
-for now, maybe just use 2.40.1's simple soundstage. i feel the simpler the soundstage, the less the problems.
uploaded v2.43 256 8 , increased vibration, soundstage have more stable. open/free sound, better balanced. try and enjoy.

Re: lekt player

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:56 am
by jesuscheung
finally have time to test!

vocal only. one song only- "eyes on me" from FF
this song is special. i never heard 100% vibration+emotion. i have heard 100% vibration. 100% emotion. never both at the same time. only one time i heard too much vibration from one version of MQn (but earaches + lacks emotion). vocal vibration is difficult in this song i think (due to the recording?).

2.43 //99% vibration. 98.5%emotion. rich. good balance between density and vibration. lost interest half way
2.42 //99% vibration. 98%emotion. good high density. lost interest half way
2.40.2 //99% vibration. 1% too mellow. 99.5%emotion
2.41.2 //99% vibration.
2.31 fibonacci //extra something special. 2.4x doesn't have.
2.41.1 //99.5%vibration 0.5% too mellow. 99.8%emotion. can't stop listening
2.41 //98%vibration
2.40.4 //99%vibration
2.40.1 //97%vibration. vibration is only weakness
2.40 //99.5%vibration. 99.8%emotion. can't stop listening

conclusion: best vocal needs 2.40 + 2.31 fibonacci + 2.43 + 2.41.1 + 2.40.2.