MQN

[sbgk]

In all fairness
When is the pursuit of better sound finished

Agree completely but I was getting a "Groundhog Day" sort of feeling about final versions so went back to check and was surprised how often we have been here recently.
At least I was not imagining things!!

I thought it was a cheap shot, guess I'm an easy target.

[sbgk]

5.27 avx2 - now that's what I'm talking about, startled me first time I heard it. Can I squeeze a bit more out of it ?

quite excited about this one, best I've ever heard. talk about a live sound. ridiculously good.

[Sligolad]

I thought it was a cheap shot, guess I'm an easy target.

No malice intended, just trying to focus minds as we appear to be loosing sight of the end game every time there is a proclamation on the final version.
Please do not loose sight of the fact that there have been many here who have contributed greatly to the development of MQN and I do not expect many want to see the end of MQN but you have to admit there have been quite a few false dawns.
Expectations have been raised that we may be moving on to another mad journey and I may have been a bit naïve to think that was the case.
I for one greatly admire what you have done and may have become too emotionally involved in the prospect of a final version so I will gladly step away if my intentions are taken as a cheap shot and allow others to work with you on the further development of what is the best redbook player out there at the moment.
I wish you well with MQN.
Cheers, Pearse.

[sbgk]

I thought it was a cheap shot, guess I'm an easy target.

No malice intended, just trying to focus minds as we appear to be loosing sight of the end game every time there is a proclamation on the final version.
Please do not loose sight of the fact that there have been many here who have contributed greatly to the development of MQN and I do not expect many want to see the end of MQN but you have to admit there have been quite a few false dawns.
Expectations have been raised that we may be moving on to another mad journey and I may have been a bit naïve to think that was the case.
I for one greatly admire what you have done and may have become too emotionally involved in the prospect of a final version so I will gladly step away if my intentions are taken as a cheap shot and allow others to work with you on the further development of what is the best redbook player out there at the moment.
I wish you well with MQN.
Cheers, Pearse.

no problem, just thought there were better ways to get your point across.

[sbgk]

5.27 avx2 - now that's what I'm talking about, startled me first time I heard it. Can I squeeze a bit more out of it ?

quite excited about this one, best I've ever heard. talk about a live sound. ridiculously good.

uploaded 5.28 avx2, about 2 x as good as 5.27, unbelievable detail now. Might need some alignment changes, but already leaps ahead of anything I've heard before. simply amazing what 16/44 can deliver.

[adolfo.a.aguiar]

1. I tested 5.27avx2 and it's the new best for me (previously 5.07avx2 and 3.14avx before that).
My CPU is Xeon E3-1265LV2 (Ivy Bridge) and plays avx2!!!???

2. Below are the results of WASAPI test. Any reason why I can't play 24-96 with MQn?
Foobar plays fine. DAC is Calyx 24/192 with Thesycon XMOS driver.

C:\Users\Administrator\Downloads>WASAPI_Test --device "Speakers (XMOS XS1-L1 Aud
io)"

EXCLUSIVE: off EVENT DRIVEN: off
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192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 24 2 1152000 6 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 24 2 1152000 6 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 3 0 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: off
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
48000 32 2 384000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 1 0 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
88200 32 2 705600 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
96000 32 2 768000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: off EVENT DRIVEN: on
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 24 2 1152000 6 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 24 2 1152000 6 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 3 0 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: on
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
48000 32 2 384000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 1 0 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
88200 32 2 705600 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
96000 32 2 768000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok

AC3 - EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: off
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

AC3 - EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: on
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


WASAPI-test.exe version: 3 tested: 2526 ok: 48
C:\Users\Administrator\Downloads>

[Aleg]

1. I tested 5.27avx2 and it's the new best for me (previously 5.07avx2 and 3.14avx before that).
My CPU is Xeon E3-1265LV2 (Ivy Bridge) and plays avx2!!!???

2. Below are the results of WASAPI test. Any reason why I can't play 24-96 with MQn?
Foobar plays fine. DAC is Calyx 24/192 with Thesycon XMOS driver.

C:\Users\Administrator\Downloads>WASAPI_Test --device "Speakers (XMOS XS1-L1 Aud
io)"

EXCLUSIVE: off EVENT DRIVEN: off
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 24 2 1152000 6 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 24 2 1152000 6 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 3 0 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: off
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
48000 32 2 384000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 1 0 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
88200 32 2 705600 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
96000 32 2 768000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: off EVENT DRIVEN: on
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 24 2 1152000 6 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 24 2 1152000 6 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 3 0 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: on
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
48000 32 2 384000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 1 0 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
88200 32 2 705600 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
96000 32 2 768000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok

AC3 - EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: off
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

AC3 - EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: on
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


WASAPI-test.exe version: 3 tested: 2526 ok: 48
C:\Users\Administrator\Downloads>

Easy, your DAC expects 24-bit music to be presented in 32-bit containers.
That combination is not yet supported and is one that several people are waiting for (me among them).
Gordon has to do some more rework on this version and my guess is we're last in line, because the other versions are those that Gordon uses himself.

So just be patient, and hopefully all will be well.

Cheers

Aleg

[Aleg]

5.27 avx2 - now that's what I'm talking about, startled me first time I heard it. Can I squeeze a bit more out of it ?

quite excited about this one, best I've ever heard. talk about a live sound. ridiculously good.

uploaded 5.28 avx2, about 2 x as good as 5.27, unbelievable detail now. Might need some alignment changes, but already leaps ahead of anything I've heard before. simply amazing what 16/44 can deliver.

5.28 and 5.30 are again some of those unplayable versions like we had before.
Plays OK for some plays only with a lot of distorted sound for others.

In the past we had the same kind of effect with player versions that had a switched order of fetch and copy. Only a few were capable of playing without heavy distortion.

These two are very heavily distorted.

Cheers

Aleg

[nige2000]

Distorted like 3.39 avx2 and old old 2.73?

[jorm]

It´s definitely a bug in 5.28 and 5.30 avx2 ,they are only playable with the M2Tech Young driver(and Amanero),I get distortions both with Audiophilleo and thesycon 2.20.
5.27 avx2 plays fine and is definitely a small breakthrough in terms of overall clarity.

Cheers

Jorgen