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Re: MQN

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:58 am
by Ken Moreland
I didn't switch off Jplay Service during comparisons, I'll give it a try tomorrow. I understood RAM allocation for Jplay was only made during play e.g. with Jplay Mini.
Can we try a 5.20 avx2 2496 version?
KM

Re: MQN

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:36 am
by dannyhc
No joy using control 2.97, plays but with a static and a metallic post processing effect.

Purchased Windows 8.1 Pro today was hoping a fresh rebuild would resolve, I'm running out of options but at least 4.08 works.

Gordon could it be my Xonar Essence One only supports 24 bit in 32 bit containers? This would explain why even the SSE2 are distorted?

Re: MQN

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:07 pm
by sbgk
dannyhc wrote:No joy using control 2.97, plays but with a static and a metallic post processing effect.

Purchased Windows 8.1 Pro today was hoping a fresh rebuild would resolve, I'm running out of options but at least 4.08 works.

Gordon could it be my Xonar Essence One only supports 24 bit in 32 bit containers? This would explain why even the SSE2 are distorted?
wouldn't play at all if the device didn't think it was capable. Maybe the period size is too small for your device, currently 256 samples. You can check the lowest buffer you can play using playpcmwin.

Re: MQN

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:08 pm
by sbgk
Ken Moreland wrote:I didn't switch off Jplay Service during comparisons, I'll give it a try tomorrow. I understood RAM allocation for Jplay was only made during play e.g. with Jplay Mini.
Can we try a 5.20 avx2 2496 version?
KM
the ram is allocated at system startup and is not deleted.

Re: MQN

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:12 pm
by Aleg
dannyhc wrote:...
Gordon could it be my Xonar Essence One only supports 24 bit in 32 bit containers? This would explain why even the SSE2 are distorted?
If you run wasapi_test.exe (mqn-files/test directory on google drive) you can see which modes are supported, but I would expect 4.08 to fail then as well

Re: MQN

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:13 pm
by sbgk
cvrle59 wrote:
sbgk wrote:uploaded 5.16 16/44 avx2, better treble

thought 5.14 was a bit overblown compared to 5.15
5.14 resolves background music much better than 5.15, plus bass is better defined and tighter.
I was the last fan of 4.82, but I'm almost to say that 5.14 is my new champ.
5.21 is back to the 5.14 settings, well it's 5.07 with 2 new settings so not really 5.14, but the 5.14 characteristics are there.

5.20 seems to give more detail, but it isn't musical.

Re: MQN

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:40 pm
by dannyhc
Aleg wrote: If you run wasapi_test.exe (mqn-files/test directory on google drive) you can see which modes are supported, but I would expect 4.08 to fail then as well
Looks to be OK will have to keep troubleshooting;

E:\musicplayerold>wasapi_test --device "Speakers (ASUS Xonar Essence One)"

EXCLUSIVE: off EVENT DRIVEN: off
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44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 24 2 264600 6 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 24 2 264600 6 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 3 0 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: off
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
48000 32 2 384000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 1 0 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
88200 32 2 705600 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
96000 32 2 768000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: off EVENT DRIVEN: on
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 24 2 264600 6 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 24 2 264600 6 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 3 0 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: on
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
48000 32 2 384000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 1 0 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
88200 32 2 705600 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
96000 32 2 768000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok

AC3 - EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: off
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AC3 - EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: on
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WASAPI-test.exe version: 3 tested: 2526 ok: 48

Re: MQN

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:53 pm
by Aleg
dannyhc wrote:
Aleg wrote: If you run wasapi_test.exe (mqn-files/test directory on google drive) you can see which modes are supported, but I would expect 4.08 to fail then as well
Looks to be OK will have to keep troubleshooting;

E:\musicplayerold>wasapi_test --device "Speakers (ASUS Xonar Essence One)"

EXCLUSIVE: off EVENT DRIVEN: off
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 24 2 264600 6 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 24 2 264600 6 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 3 0 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: off
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
48000 32 2 384000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 1 0 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
88200 32 2 705600 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
96000 32 2 768000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: off EVENT DRIVEN: on
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 24 2 264600 6 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 24 2 264600 6 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 3 0 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 32 3 - Format works ok

EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: on
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
44100 16 2 176400 4 1 0 - Format works ok
44100 16 2 176400 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
44100 32 2 352800 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
48000 16 2 192000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
48000 32 2 384000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 1 0 - Format works ok
88200 16 2 352800 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
88200 32 2 705600 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
96000 16 2 384000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
96000 32 2 768000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 1 0 - Format works ok
192000 16 2 768000 4 65534 22 16 3 - Format works ok
192000 32 2 1536000 8 65534 22 24 3 - Format works ok

AC3 - EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: off
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AC3 - EXCLUSIVE: on EVENT DRIVEN: on
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


WASAPI-test.exe version: 3 tested: 2526 ok: 48

This shows that your 16-bit music will be played in 16-bit containers, so playing 16-bit should be OK.

It does show that 24-bit music needs to be presented in 32-bit containers, something that is not supported at the moment.
Gordon has right now only 24-bit in 24-bit containers. So you'll not be able to playback 24-bit music.

Cheers

Aleg

Re: MQN

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:03 pm
by John Dot
5.20 sounds too sharp to me 5.07 sse2 is the best for me at the moment.

Re: MQN

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:54 pm
by nige2000
sbgk wrote: 5.21 is back to the 5.14 settings, well it's 5.07 with 2 new settings so not really 5.14, but the 5.14 characteristics are there.

5.20 seems to give more detail, but it isn't musical.

5.20 better for me both for detail and "musicality"