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Re: Music you don't "get"

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:29 pm
by Seán
Ciaran wrote:English Music.

Händel (German, actually!)

Bruckner

Wagner

Richard Strauß

Plainchant
and Rachmaninov's symphonies? and Schumann's symphonies too, I expect?

Re: Music you don't "get"

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:42 pm
by Ciaran
Well reminded! I'll add them in!

Re: Music you don't "get"

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:41 pm
by Seán
Ciaran wrote:English Music.

Händel (German, actually!)

Edit Schumann's symphonies

Edit Rakhmaninov's symphonies

(Thanks, Seán! (Actually, I try at both of these, occasionally with some success.))
My pleasure, for Schumann I rather like Chailly's 2 CD Mahler Edition set, Gustav did improve them and for Rachmaninov I rarely look beyond Svetlanov.

Re: Music you don't "get"

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:42 pm
by Jared
^^ for Schumann, try Sawallisch...

for Rachmaninov... I'm happy enough with the Ashkenazy set on Decca, although they are only an occasional listen for me these days...

Re: Music you don't "get"

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:44 pm
by Jared
Seán wrote:My pleasure, for Schumann I rather like Chailly's 2 CD Mahler Edition set, Gustav did improve them.
I'm not sure about that... although the richer, larger orchestration didn't destroy them either. Brahms & Schumann orchestral works have to be played in the right hands...

Re: Music you don't "get"

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:08 pm
by Seán
Jared wrote:
Seán wrote:My pleasure, for Schumann I rather like Chailly's 2 CD Mahler Edition set, Gustav did improve them.
I'm not sure about that... although the richer, larger orchestration didn't destroy them either. Brahms & Schumann orchestral works have to be played in the right hands...
ie, Chailly.

Re: Music you don't "get"

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:19 pm
by Jared
Seán wrote: ie, Chailly.
maybe, but I've not heard his earlier set with the Concertgebouw, performing the Symphonies the way Schumann intended, so I can't comment.

Re: Music you don't "get"

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:24 pm
by Seán
Jared wrote:
Seán wrote: ie, Chailly.
maybe, but I've not heard his earlier set with the Concertgebouw, performing the Symphonies the way Schumann intended, so I can't comment.
The Sawallisch approach to Brahms is horrible, it put me off Brahms symphonic music for years. I do have his Schumann cycle and it is immeasureably better I agree.

Re: Music you don't "get"

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:31 pm
by Jared
Seán wrote: The Sawallisch approach to Brahms is horrible, it put me off Brahms symphonic music for years. I do have his Schumann cycle and it is immeasureably better I agree.
agreed on both counts...

Re: Music you don't "get"

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:22 pm
by bombasticDarren
Jared wrote:
Seán wrote: The Sawallisch approach to Brahms is horrible, it put me off Brahms symphonic music for years. I do have his Schumann cycle and it is immeasureably better I agree.
agreed on both counts...
The LPO cycle is reasonably horrid, I am trying out the Wiener Symphoniker cycle at the moment and it's much better. I have to say that the LPO are one orchestra that I sometimes find easier to criticise for bland readings than other major orchestras...