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Seán wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:07 pm

fergus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:08 pm Liszt: Tone Poems [van Immerseel]

These are wonderful works given very fine performances here.

I do like their Beethoven cycle. There is a box set available on JPC.de for €19.99 and it strikes me as odd to have these works played by an orchestra using (older) 'period' instruments, perhaps it's me that's odd

Seán wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:16 pm There is nothing odd about this:



Joseph Haydn
Symphony No. 92
Freiburger Barockorchester
René Jacobs conducting

I first heard the Bavarians on a RTÉ Lyric live broadcast of excerpts of Bach's BWV 62 and Zelenka's Missa Dei Filli and they blew me away. The energy, drive and musicality is magnificent. Fortunately, I still have the recording of the broadcast.

Their performance of the Oxford Symphony (mentioned above) was the first choice on Building A Library. I won't argue with that.

fergus wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:41 pm

Seán wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:07 pm

fergus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:08 pm Liszt: Tone Poems [van Immerseel]

These are wonderful works given very fine performances here.

I do like their Beethoven cycle. There is a box set available on JPC.de for €19.99 and it strikes me as odd to have these works played by an orchestra using (older) 'period' instruments, perhaps it's me that's odd

Perhaps I am not understanding you correctly but, if not Seán, I hate to be the one to inform you that if you do not listen to Beethoven in HIP then you definitely are odd!!
First off, I do believe that you know the Gardiner cycle.
The van Immerseel cycle is, in my humble opinion, also a very good one indeed.
Then there are also wonderful LvB cycles by Bruggen [X 2], Goodman, Hogwood and Norrington that I personally know of.

One has always to remember the context of the time and the instruments that a composer of his time was writing with and for. He was writing with specific sonorities and timbres in mind. He had a certain sound in his mind as he composed the music. Modern instruments are very different to those of Beethoven’s time. This must always be borne in mind with "older" music.

This is by no means a lecture but a suggestion that you may be limiting your sonic and interpretative experience by merely listening to this music played on Modern Instruments.

fergus wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:33 pm

Seán wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:59 pm

fergus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:40 pm Haydn's early Symphonies played under the baton of Goodman

I do like Goodman and the Handover Band's treatment of Haydn's symphonies, that said I don't have very many of them. Dave loved them.

I have everything that Goodman recorded in the Haydn Symphonies. They are my go to in the Haydan Symphonies.

Seán wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:43 am
My apologies for the confusion but my doubts were raised about the wisdom of HIP performances of the Rimsky-Korsakov, Borodin, Dvořák and Tchaikovsky...

Seán wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:24 pm I’m on a roll here



Joseph Haydn
Symphony no. 92
Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra
Adam Fischer conducting

Great stuff