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3daudio wrote:Hi all,

none of the 3.7x versions is doing it for me. Musicality and flow is lost in detail porn. I do like details or porn for that matter, but it somehow seems to fall apart and gets exhausting to listen to.

3.41 with 1.4 control is better in that regard. Still plenty of details, but more flow of the music.

Back to your regular program.

3D

I find that a strange opinion you expressed here.
You donot want to hear all the details that are present in the recording, but want them masked in favour of ????
Imho these 3.75/3.27/3.14 and some earlier ones are the only ones showing the true recording, the others are some form DSP-/EQ-ing which is best done outside a software player somewhere else in the playback chain.

You could try something like this, which has a very appropriate name: http://delamanchavst.wordpress.com/2013 ... /unstable/

i actually lost track of which control i use hehe

downloaded 1.4 control. does flow a lot better with 3.41 than whatever control i had...

tried 1.4 control with 3.56see. not good at all

how can we test so many combo...

Look at 3D setup:

WinServer12/AudioOptimizer -> AR-T Legato II -> AMR DP-777

Very, very exakt clock in the DDC and in the S/PDIF Receiver.

Very, very exakt by hardware and software could be too much for musical enjoyment.

he was right though, 3.81 onwards are a bit easier to listen to

sbgk wrote:he was right though, 3.81 onwards are a bit easier to listen to

3.82 has lost control of the sound, it is floating around and very diffuse.
3.81 not so (much).
3.82 is unlistenable with acoustic instruments.
Will try 3.81 for a longer period somewhat later tonight and check on other aspects.

Cheers

Karl wrote:Look at 3D setup:

WinServer12/AudioOptimizer -> AR-T Legato II -> AMR DP-777

Very, very exakt clock in the DDC and in the S/PDIF Receiver.

Very, very exakt by hardware and software could be too much for musical enjoyment.

Than, Karl, you are a very lucky guy! For a 1K system (or less) you will get the best musical enjoyment! :))))))))

I'm lagging behind... too many versions, one after the other :-)

I did some listening of avx 3.73 - 3.79 in comparison with one of my references 3.72 with the result in ascending order:

3.79 wrong timing, switch off after 20 seconds
3.77 tonally balanced but somewhat muddled and timing slightly off
3.74 much too warm and dark
3.72 old reference
3.73 more detail, but bit too dark
3.78 good timing, but bit too light
3.76 pretty good, mids too prominent, attack & sound stage bit blurred
3.75 good overall balance, but some realism lost compared to 3.76

When I convert the tracks to 24/96 and play them with avx 2.99, or even better 3.39 (discovered today that take 2 of that version does work on my system), I get a significantly more realistic and overall better sound that sort of adopts the best of 3.75 and 3.76, and then some.

Missed the new versions from 2.80 onwards so will test those tomorrow, or whenever I have time again, whichever comes first. :-)

Karl wrote:Look at 3D setup:

WinServer12/AudioOptimizer -> AR-T Legato II -> AMR DP-777

Very, very exakt clock in the DDC and in the S/PDIF Receiver.

Very, very exakt by hardware and software could be too much for musical enjoyment.

Whats your pc setup?

satshanti wrote:I'm lagging behind... too many versions, one after the other :-)

I did some listening of avx 3.73 - 3.79 in comparison with one of my references 3.72 with the result in ascending order:

3.79 wrong timing, switch off after 20 seconds
3.77 tonally balanced but somewhat muddled and timing slightly off
3.74 much too warm and dark
3.72 old reference
3.73 more detail, but bit too dark
3.78 good timing, but bit too light
3.76 pretty good, mids too prominent, attack & sound stage bit blurred
3.75 good overall balance, but some realism lost compared to 3.76

When I convert the tracks to 24/96 and play them with avx 2.99, or even better 3.39 (discovered today that take 2 of that version does work on my system), I get a significantly more realistic and overall better sound that sort of adopts the best of 3.75 and 3.76, and then some.

Missed the new versions from 2.80 onwards so will test those tomorrow, or whenever I have time again, whichever comes first. :-)

whats the fate of the DDDac then ?
you still stuck with headphones?

Im very happy with 3.82. Cristal-clear resolution, really no audible distortion, precise channel separation. Seems to subtract nothing from the file/signal. Very easy listening all night long. Best Version for me so far. Thanks a lot!