Tír Na HiFi

nige2000 wrote:sorry for my poor sense of humour
but you got to have faith......

LOL.

I have no doubt Gordon will get there.

"Patience is a virtue"...:)

cvrle59 wrote:"Patience is a virtue"...:)

Paraphrasing a Talking Heads song- 'Patience is a virtue but I don't have the time'

29b over v29
small bit cleaner and tighter

Has anybody tried v30 yet? I just noticed it, but Gordon haven't announced it like he usually does, explaining what he changed.

cvrle59 wrote:Has anybody tried v30 yet? I just noticed it, but Gordon haven't announced it like he usually does, explaining what he changed.

On his blog:
"squeezelite v30 - increase time before play starts, might need to increase the -b x:y setting, I use -b 1000:2000000"

I assume that you all heard the latest big news about the Mexican fisherman who got lost on the sea for 13 months.

In the last month, since we started this "running like a service" thing, I got lost in JLP the same way!
So, if you don't hear from me, that means that I'm still floating, looking for land ............. or internet service! ;-)

Adios Amigos!

Hi all

Gordon posted this reply to 2C's experience with MQn on CA.

Hi 2channel,

just saw your blog entry for mqn

2channelaudio: MQn minimalist PC music player - The king of sound quality

How resolving is your system ? Just wanted to know so I could calibrate your feedback a bit.

I know jlp is far from the finished product, but I thought I was hearing further into the music with v30 than I was able to do with MQn ie some things MQn just couldn't resolve, but could easily follow with jlp. Still think the streaming aspect of jlp not helping.

I think he has a valid point in that all experience is relative to the system it was experienced with. That is not just the hardware/software part of it but also the music used and the listening room. That latter aspect is difficult to take into account when talking about your experience, but I think everybody should mention what gear was used when listening. So a call to all is to put your gear in your signature. This is not to say some is better than another and therefore more valuable/reliable judgement, but certain systems have a certain character.

Resolving systems on the other hand are a double-edged sword.
They can show good music beautifully, but they will also show every weakness in the playback chain. This being badly recorded or mastered music, bad software players, lousy audioPC's, bad PSU's, etc.

So if one is using a laptop e.g. as playback device, IMO, you will invariably get a noisy music signal, as they are the worst devices for music playback esp. if they contain spinning discs as well.
In such a case one might describe a recording or a player as 'digital sounding' while it may not be so, but due to the revealing character of the player and the playback chain one might just be hearing noise from the playback device. Consequently some may steer away from that player, not because it is intrinsically bad, but just because it is showing weaknesses elsewhere which you don't like hearing.


So do you think a more resolving system would show JLP to be the better player?

I know I haven't got the most extremely resolving system, that is, I know there are even more resolving and revealing Naim components, but it can still show a lot.

It is my experience that MQn can show at least as much of the music and soundstage as JLP does, but MQn can show much more microdetails and textures in the tones than JLP can, which in JLP sound flat by comparison.

Would you consider your setup resolving enough to make this comparison between MQn and JLP?

The remark from Gordon creates a reciprocal question however, does anyone know what setup Gordon is using when judging sound from the players?
It would be interesting for me to know what kind of level of hifi and audioPC he is using and how it compares to mine so I know how to position my experiences in relation to his.

This is an interesting but difficult topic, which I have found on other forums never to reach a conclusive answer, but is always nice to follow.

Cheers

Aleg

ive got tracks i can no longer listen to because of poor recordings and the resolution achieved with my audio pc and mqn

nige2000 wrote:ive got tracks i can no longer listen to because of poor recordings and the resolution achieved with my audio pc and mqn

I think most of us here would suffer from that fate, nige2000. ;)

Aleg, personally I believe the system (the constant) is somewhat irrelevant when directly comparing software players (the variable).

Why, because the constant (system) is considered/understood & known when making any qualifications and evaluations concerning the variable (software) influences.

I believe the real issue at hand is SQ is subjective and very difficult to measure quantitatively.
Typically we measure changes in SQ by ear, and therefore one listeners preference over another is purely opinion.