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nige2000 wrote:

jesuscheung wrote:2.49 sounds great.

not bright here. very sweet brightness. treble is sweet too
vocal feels like 100000
music flow is different to 100000
texture ok

like 100000, micro-details is an issue. needs more clarity+clean.
for complex music e.g. rock, soundstage goes a little weird when micro-details/vibrations is dirty.
other times, soundstage feels normal

Jc
You get 100000 working or you working from memory

2.49 likely best of the sse2

No point really comparing sse2 to avx
Avx has too much advantage
Avx worth getting a new cpu mobo for
Avx has qualities that puts it ahead of many platforms

2.49 has more detail than 100000 but real dirty like Jc says
Feels like square plug round hole type thing
Especially when many or more complex instruments are playing at once

Nigel

I just ran your dropbox avx 100000 collection on my new WIndows 8.1 install (dual boot on my work desktop which runs primarily Win 7)

What I notice is that when mqnplay is started by mqncontrol, there is a small blink of the command window.
Looking at the event log it shows mqnplay avx crashing with "Exception code 0xc0000005".
Again looking on google on this it says: "Exception code 0xc0000005 is an Access Violation."

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Edited:
No security issue but memory access violation. Something for Gordon to look into.

cheers

aleg

In Windows 8.1 running as user "Administrator" does not solve the mqnplay avx crash.

What it does solve in Windows 8.1 is the tasker messages about authorisation level.
In Windows 8.1, for tasker it is enough to have the checkbox "Run as Administrator" checked.

Now need to get rid of permission dialogue box.

Cheers
Aleg

that avx 100000 folder is an old one i had on dropbox

using all 2012 r2 min server here

would it not be easier to use an r2 usb 3 stick for work rather than a dual partition

on my 8.1 desktop no mqn would work from desktop only c:/
found it problematic by times so stopped testing on it

Think I cracked the mqnplay avx crash. Am now listening to 100000 avx2

It is being caused by Windows 8.1 default security settings.
Apparently mqnplay avx causes Windows to raise an elevation prompt even though the user is member of the Administrators group.
Being a commandline program there is no way to accept this elevation prompt.

The solution for me was to:
- Go into Local Security Policy (found on the administrative tools list on metro)
- Select the Locals Policies/Security Options
- Double click "User Account Control: Behaviour of the elevation prompt for administrator in Admin Approval Mode"
- Select "Elevate without prompting"

Now the avx versions do run in combination with my modified mqn-aff.bat with full paths.

Cheers

Aleg

Aleg wrote:Think I cracked the mqnplay avx crash. Am now listening to 100000 avx2

It is being caused by Windows 8.1 default security settings.
Apparently mqnplay avx causes Windows to raise an elevation prompt even though the user is member of the Administrators group.
Being a commandline program there is no way to accept this elevation prompt.

The solution for me was to:
- Go into Local Security Policy (found on the administrative tools list on metro)
- Select the Locals Policies/Security Options
- Double click "User Account Control: Behaviour of the elevation prompt for administrator in Admin Approval Mode"
- Select "Elevate without prompting"

Now the avx versions do run in combination with my modified mqn-aff.bat with full paths.

Cheers

Aleg

cool that should help some others out

listened to old 2.73 448 rb
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p3tvvz29fj22gjp/KUie4enfeI

theres something common to 2.73 and 100000 that these new versions do not it affects air, flow, reverb and musicality

nige2000 wrote:

Aleg wrote:Think I cracked the mqnplay avx crash. Am now listening to 100000 avx2

It is being caused by Windows 8.1 default security settings.
Apparently mqnplay avx causes Windows to raise an elevation prompt even though the user is member of the Administrators group.
Being a commandline program there is no way to accept this elevation prompt.

The solution for me was to:
- Go into Local Security Policy (found on the administrative tools list on metro)
- Select the Locals Policies/Security Options
- Double click "User Account Control: Behaviour of the elevation prompt for administrator in Admin Approval Mode"
- Select "Elevate without prompting"

Now the avx versions do run in combination with my modified mqn-aff.bat with full paths.

Cheers

Aleg

cool that should help some others out

listened to old 2.73 448 rb
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p3tvvz29fj22gjp/KUie4enfeI

theres something common to 2.73 and 100000 that these new versions do not it affects air, flow, reverb and musicality

Hopefully that is a great find Aleg. Will that apply to 2012r2 also? Hoping that is the case but realise it could be control that only works with haswell. I always get confused on the avx avx2 etc as the names are all over the place in the control files.

tony wrote:

nige2000 wrote:

Aleg wrote:Think I cracked the mqnplay avx crash. Am now listening to 100000 avx2

It is being caused by Windows 8.1 default security settings.
Apparently mqnplay avx causes Windows to raise an elevation prompt even though the user is member of the Administrators group.
Being a commandline program there is no way to accept this elevation prompt.

The solution for me was to:
- Go into Local Security Policy (found on the administrative tools list on metro)
- Select the Locals Policies/Security Options
- Double click "User Account Control: Behaviour of the elevation prompt for administrator in Admin Approval Mode"
- Select "Elevate without prompting"

Now the avx versions do run in combination with my modified mqn-aff.bat with full paths.

Cheers

Aleg

cool that should help some others out

listened to old 2.73 448 rb
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p3tvvz29fj22gjp/KUie4enfeI

theres something common to 2.73 and 100000 that these new versions do not it affects air, flow, reverb and musicality

Hopefully that is a great find Aleg. Will that apply to 2012r2 also? Hoping that is the case but realise it could be control that only works with haswell. I always get confused on the avx avx2 etc as the names are all over the place in the control files.

Tony

On Server2012 R2 I didn't have to do this. On 2012 the avx started working spontaneously.

The Windows 8 is my Office PC which did show these crashes in the Event log.
On my listening room Server 2012 R2 AudioPC I can't check this as it is running in minimal server mode with AudioPhil's Optimiser and therefor a lot of things are switched off (amongst which the Event log).

The whole mqn.bat is somewhat of a mystery to me as I'm not deeply at home with all batch commands and settings and effects.
Sometimes I have had to use full paths to files and commands and sometimes it wasn't necessary. At other moments I had to add the statement endlocal to get it running and then I had to remove it to get it going. All signs I don't fully grasp what is going on, but in most cases I did manage to get it going.

My guess is this solution might be limited to Windows 8 with a normal consumer oriented GUI desktop environment.

Cheers

Aleg

What I use for the avx 100000 set up is:
mqncontrol.exe 24 bit avx2 v1 100000.exe 24 bit avx2 v1 100000.exe 24 bit avx2 v1 100000

And
mqnplay.exe 24 bit avx2 v1 win8.1-r2 100000.1-r2 100000.1-r2 100000

Unfortunately I cannot make direct links to these files on Googledrive, but they are in the Archive section.

And if you go into list-mode instead of icon-mode you can sort on name and they should be relatively easy to spot.

Cheers

Aleg

Aleg wrote:Think I cracked the mqnplay avx crash. Am now listening to 100000 avx2

It is being caused by Windows 8.1 default security settings.
Apparently mqnplay avx causes Windows to raise an elevation prompt even though the user is member of the Administrators group.
Being a commandline program there is no way to accept this elevation prompt.

The solution for me was to:
- Go into Local Security Policy (found on the administrative tools list on metro)
- Select the Locals Policies/Security Options
- Double click "User Account Control: Behaviour of the elevation prompt for administrator in Admin Approval Mode"
- Select "Elevate without prompting"

Now the avx versions do run in combination with my modified mqn-aff.bat with full paths.

Cheers

Aleg

It seems secpol.msc is not installed on my W8.1, I know it's not the Enterprise edition, I think it's just the basic W8.1. Does AVX need Enterprise or Pro?

Clive wrote: It seems secpol.msc is not installed on my W8.1, I know it's not the Enterprise edition, I think it's just the basic W8.1. Does AVX need Enterprise or Pro?

no

8.1 basic > 8.1 enterprise/pro
7 home > 7 ultimate

8.1 basic probably > R2 as well
8.1 has the least crap. most minimalist