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Re: Rock - what are you listening to?

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:08 pm
by Fran
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Re: Rock - what are you listening to?

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:19 pm
by mcq
cybot wrote:
mcq wrote:I've been listening tonight to Judee Sill Live in London. This is a collection of performances recorded at live shows/radio shows during her travels to London in 1972 and 1973. Much is spoken about what a consummate artist she was in the studio, comparable in her perfectionism to Brian Wilson, but live and in person she was a compelling presence. There is a heightened sense of intimacy and vulnerability in these cherishable recordings. Best of all are three breathtaking performances of one of her greatest songs, The Kiss, and a chilling performance of her masterpiece, The Donor. The studio version of the latter on Heart Food is an intensely powerful experience with the layers of chanting voices intoning "Kyrie eleison" in a recording of unearthly dark power that I personally find extremely unsettling. The live version is simpler, just Judee on piano, even more sombre in tone, but just as chilling in intensity. It is preceded by a spoken introduction during which she briefly describes the genesis of the song and about how her intentions were to write a song that "would induce God into giving us all a break", but since then she decided that she doesn't deserve any more breaks because she "squandered them in weird places". Such a strange thing to say at the time but strangely prescient in the light of how her life would eventually play out. It always make me stop when I hear that spoken introduction, and the way she takes a breath, and then launches into the opening chords of the song. Many have commented about the religious themes that weave their way though Judee's songs but, to me, her songs were simply profoundly moving cries from the heart for some kind of redemption or salvation (which sadly eluded her all her life), and The Donor is her greatest expression of these sentiments and represents a summation of her life and art. This is a very personal song about being haunted by dreams in which voices hidden deep in her subconscious cry out, "Leave us not forsaken" and "Kyrie eleison (Lord have mercy)". Two lines in particular never fail to break my heart. First of all, "So sad and so true, that even shadows come and hum the requiem, Kyrie eleison." When I hear the word, "shadows", I think of shades in Greek mythology, the spirits of dead people residing in the underworld crying out for redemption. Sill was realist enough to know that the heaven she yearned after would not be so easily attained, but, in this song at least, the thought of simply existing in limbo after her death was something she actively feared and had nightmares about. Secondly, the line, "sorrow's like an arrow, shooting straight and narrow, aiming true, its sting goes reaching to the marrow. Silence cried", speaks directly of this fear in a profoundly unsettling way.

When I hear The Donor, the concluding track on Judee's second album, I often think of the first track on her first album, Crayon Angels, and, in particular, the closing lines, "Phoney prophets stole the only light I knew and the darkness softly screamed. Holy visions disappeared from my view, but the angels come back and laugh in my dreams. I wonder what it means?" This is eerily prophetic. The "phoney prophet" is undoubtedly label boss David Geffen, who would summarily cancel her recording contract with Asylum in 1973, and the man in whom she had put all her faith and trust. The "darkness softly screaming" presages the "crying silence" to come and the mocking laugh of the angels looks ahead to the anguished voices in her dreams in The Donor, whose "voices come a-chiming, moaning and a-rhyming, warning me". I just wonder, sometimes, in the light of her religious beliefs, whether there was a self-destructive streak in Sill which prompted her, subconsciously, to see the rejections and disappointments she faced in life as somehow "inevitable" and that she just didn't deserve the success of, say, Joni Mitchell.

Ahead of her lay a gradual but sustained retreat to what she called the "dark peace" of heroin, which emotionally cocooned her from the world around her until her passing in 1979. So sad, so unspeakably sad, but what music she left behind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE4c3ZlCWmQ (live version of The Donor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I61zfxc2 ... h_response (studio version of The Donor)

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I envy your ability to delve so deep into the music, any music, as only you can. I (we?) can only gawk and stare with astonishment. Keep them coming Paul. Beautiful...
Thank you, Dermot, for the kind words. I appreciate them. I was listening to this great music over and again last night and it touched me deeply. It's strangely cathartic to get the words out and articulate your feelings about these things, because otherwise you won't sleep so soundly in your bed. I honestly can't think of any other artist in popular music whose work has touched me to my very core like Judee's in recent years. My initial thoughts were of a pleasant early-Seventies Southern Californan singer-songwriter but close listening over time has proved otherwise. Such a shame that David Geffen didn't take the time to listen more closely, but then let's not forget his dismissive response to Gene Clark's magnificent No Other either.

Oh, and Happy Easter.

Re: Rock - what are you listening to?

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:51 pm
by cybot
mcq wrote:
cybot wrote:
I envy your ability to delve so deep into the music, any music, as only you can. I (we?) can only gawk and stare with astonishment. Keep them coming Paul. Beautiful...
Thank you, Dermot, for the kind words. I appreciate them. I was listening to this great music over and again last night and it touched me deeply. It's strangely cathartic to get the words out and articulate your feelings about these things, because otherwise you won't sleep so soundly in your bed. I honestly can't think of any other artist in popular music whose work has touched me to my very core like Judee's in recent years. My initial thoughts were of a pleasant early-Seventies Southern Californan singer-songwriter but close listening over time has proved otherwise. Such a shame that David Geffen didn't take the time to listen more closely, but then let's not forget his dismissive response to Gene Clark's magnificent No Other either.

Oh, and Happy Easter.
Happy Easter to you too...Don't get me started on the Geffen devil. Remember Neil Young?

Re: Rock - what are you listening to?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:38 am
by mcq
Indeed I do, Dermot. Geffen's response to Trans was typical of the man and I believe it was Young's close relationship with his manager, Eliot Roberts (who co-formed Asylum with Geffen), that saved Young from further intervention from Geffen. Roberts was the type of manager that the likes of Judee Sill sorely needed, a tough character that believed firmly in his artist and who could shield him/her from the industry world.

Re: Rock - what are you listening to?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:04 pm
by cybot
On the tt this morning....


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Re: Rock - what are you listening to?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:36 pm
by JAW
Another bit of resurrected vinyl!!!!

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Re: Rock - what are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:40 pm
by cybot
JAW wrote:Another bit of resurrected vinyl!!!!

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Aw! Now that brings a tear to my eye on this rather dull Easter morning....Creedence Clearwater Revival.....sigh :) I used to have the poster version of above sleeve stuck to my bedroom wall! In fact it was the only poster I ever spent my pocket money on! Thanks a million Johnny :) By the way, happy Easter....

Useless titbit: The concert is actually from Oakland California and not the Royal Albert Hall as stated....

Re: Rock - what are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:35 pm
by jadarin
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Re: Rock - what are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:36 pm
by jadarin
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Re: Rock - what are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:40 pm
by jadarin
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