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Re: Rock - what are you listening to?
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:33 pm
by DaveF
on vinyl....
Re: Rock - what are you listening to?
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:44 am
by cybot
On vinyl and not forgetting their other albums which "....At The Filmore East" tends to overshadow..
First two albums combined....
Re: Rock - what are you listening to?
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:40 pm
by cybot
Re: Rock - what are you listening to?
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:49 pm
by cybot
These guys just burn up the vinyl :) Spotted at least three of their titles in Tower last week...
Earthless - Live at Roadburn (2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoOO_wJ5 ... ata_player - listen and learn....
Re: Rock - what are you listening to?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:10 am
by cybot
More Earthless...
Second studio Lp...
Sonic Prayer Jam - more live...
Re: Rock - what are you listening to?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:38 pm
by cybot
Ivor wrote:cybot wrote:
Classic album with that wiry twin guitar sound that blew Punk to smithereens....
Eh? Explain.
Don't know how I missed this! One word "Explain." Very Punk. Very defensive. Not intended to annoy. Only stating a simple fact. Nothing wrong with Punk bands. Right here goes, 1 2 3 4....
"The Ramones were louder, the Pistols nastier, the Clash purer, Nick Lowe more clever, and Wire more violent, but Television was different. Television wasn't a band you could easily copy like the others. There was a complexity in their musical textures that went against the grain of punk at the time. You couldn't just pick up a guitar and play Marquee Moon like you could "12XU" by Wire. To me, they were the first "punk" band that made a truly new and original sound that was also on a
high technical and aesthetic level."
Couldn't have put it better myself.....but then again would you consider Television a Punk band?
One listen to Marquee Moon would soon clear that up :-) To me they were genreless, if there's such a word....
Re: Rock - what are you listening to?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:44 pm
by DaveF
on vinyl....
Re: Rock - what are you listening to?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:45 pm
by cybot
On the pod....listening to Red House on disc four...fifteen minutes and twenty one seconds of something that just cannot be described! Can't wait for the vinyl version so I can hear it as it was meant to be heard :-)
Re: Rock - what are you listening to?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:46 pm
by DaveF
cybot wrote:On the pod....listening to Red House on disc four...fifteen minutes and twenty one seconds of something that just cannot be described! Can't wait for the vinyl version so I can hear it as it was meant to be heard :-)
Sounds great Dermot. I'll be keeping an eye out for this too.
Re: Rock - what are you listening to?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:17 pm
by Ivor
cybot wrote:Ivor wrote:cybot wrote:
Classic album with that wiry twin guitar sound that blew Punk to smithereens....
Eh? Explain.
Don't know how I missed this! One word "Explain." Very Punk. Very defensive. Not intended to annoy. Only stating a simple fact. Nothing wrong with Punk bands. Right here goes, 1 2 3 4....
"The Ramones were louder, the Pistols nastier, the Clash purer, Nick Lowe more clever, and Wire more violent, but Television was different. Television wasn't a band you could easily copy like the others. There was a complexity in their musical textures that went against the grain of punk at the time. You couldn't just pick up a guitar and play Marquee Moon like you could "12XU" by Wire. To me, they were the first "punk" band that made a truly new and original sound that was also on a
high technical and aesthetic level."
Couldn't have put it better myself.....but then again would you consider Television a Punk band?
One listen to Marquee Moon would soon clear that up :-) To me they were genreless, if there's such a word....
I don't know who you're quoting there but they're on a different planet than me.
"You couldn't just pick up a guitar and play Marquee Moon ... " well hundreds of bands in Dublin did and often played it during their live set... many more played it in the garage just for fun. By the time the Marquee Moon single was released in April 1977 punk was already on the wane. Television were only one part of a scene that shaped post-punk pop but that scene included Richard Hell, Blondie, Talking heads and many many more. I'd suggest that Talking heads, and ironically their '77 album, did more to bring a literal intelligence and less predictable musical approach. I'd also suggest that "punk" was really a UK based genre and changed more by UK bands such as Magazine, XTC and even The Stranglers than any American band.
I really can't see how Television "blew Punk to smithereens". Television ran in close parallel with punk... but their paths didn't actually cross. Don't get me wrong.... I love them too.