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Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:02 am
by jesuscheung
sbgk,

i modded the PE or the file header. MajorLinkerVersion, SizeOfStackReverve, SizeOfStackCommit, SizeOfHeapReserve, SizeOfHeapCommit. may have changed the checksum to zero. cannot remember. you can see it in a hex editor.

just changes the way OS tries to load MQn. MQn has the same binary.

trying to tell you that i discover something affects SQ. you take it as a offense. you are paranoid. you need help. kindly advise.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:27 am
by internethandle
Well hopefully I didn't play a direct or indirect role in starting a row between sbgk/JC - would hate for either of them to leave the forum as I love MQn and have just discovered JC's "Audiophile Optimization" thread which is a veritable goldmine of Windows/BIOS settings for me to play with.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:34 pm
by sbgk
jesuscheung wrote:sbgk,

i modded the PE or the file header. MajorLinkerVersion, SizeOfStackReverve, SizeOfStackCommit, SizeOfHeapReserve, SizeOfHeapCommit. may have changed the checksum to zero. cannot remember. you can see it in a hex editor.

just changes the way OS tries to load MQn. MQn has the same binary.

trying to tell you that i discover something affects SQ. you take it as a offense. you are paranoid. you need help. kindly advise.
I guess the Chinese book of IP law is not a particulary thick tome.

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:12 pm
by jrling
internethandle wrote:Well hopefully I didn't play a direct or indirect role in starting a row between sbgk/JC - would hate for either of them to leave the forum as I love MQn and have just discovered JC's "Audiophile Optimization" thread which is a veritable goldmine of Windows/BIOS settings for me to play with.
Please could you post the link? Thanks

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:32 pm
by nige2000
jrling wrote:
internethandle wrote:Well hopefully I didn't play a direct or indirect role in starting a row between sbgk/JC - would hate for either of them to leave the forum as I love MQn and have just discovered JC's "Audiophile Optimization" thread which is a veritable goldmine of Windows/BIOS settings for me to play with.
Please could you post the link? Thanks
think jplay suffered more with timing than mqn, haven't tested hpet with jplay ( havent tested jplay in a long time)

jc's tweaks

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2456

Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:17 pm
by Aleg
nige2000 wrote:
think jplay suffered more with timing than mqn, haven't tested hpet with jplay ( havent tested jplay in a long time)
Nige

Funny, seeing an answer on this forum to a remark posted on another one :-)

Gets confusing meeting each other on so many different forums.

Cheers

Aleg

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:29 am
by sbgk
uploaded 2.71 1024 raw background 8 + 0

quite a few changes timer set to 1ms, priority optimised and further tweaks to the render loop, gives better detail, staging, sustain etc bit of a creative burst after my break. I would say it's the best I've heard from MQn.

Interestingly (or not) while others are trying to reduce latency I am adding pauses into the render loop, but what do I know.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:42 am
by sima66
I guess that Gordon's "quiet time" was worth it! ;-)
Till now 80% of the time I listened with 2.71 Intel raw and 20% with 1024 sw, depending on the recordings.
Most of the times the versions are just "different" then better, that's why we come up with different opinions.

This time, it's the biggest step forward! It was never easier for me to chose. It's 2.71 Intel Time 1 and after that five empty spaces.....nothing close!
It's so controlled and clean, the separation like never before, 3D more pronounced, the details..........simply put I LOVE IT!!!

It does not play 16/44 (only Hi-Rez). I don't know if is the same "mistake" like with the first 1024's, but even like this I'm happy (did I already said that?!).

Thanks again Sbgk and welcome back.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:49 am
by sbgk
sima66 wrote:I guess that Gordon's "quiet time" was worth it! ;-)
Till now 80% of the time I listened with 2.71 Intel raw and 20% with 1024 sw, depending on the recordings.
Most of the times the versions are just "different" then better, that's why we come up with different opinions.

This time, it's the biggest step forward! It was never easier for me to chose. It's 2.71 Intel Time 1 and after that five empty spaces.....nothing close!
It's so controlled and clean, the separation like never before, 3D more pronounced, the details..........simply put I LOVE IT!!!

It does not play 16/44 (only Hi-Rez). I don't know if is the same "mistake" like with the first 1024's, but even like this I'm happy (did I already said that?!).

Thanks again Sbgk and welcome back.
the latest 8 + 0 is an even greater step up in staging and detail, I'm surprised myself at how much detail there is now, maybe not the finished article, but getting there.

are you on 8.1 ? that might be the issue if you are still on win 8

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:51 am
by wushuliu
Yes 8+0 has impressive depth. Holographic.

EDIT: Mqnloader allows quick switching so now I'm able to do better comparisons which is very cool. Compared to Time 1, Time 1 has what sounds like a lower noise floor, more intimate and cleaner. 8+0 does not sound as clean but projects outwards more. Tough call.