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Re: Jazz - What's your bag, man?

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:25 pm
by fergus
l always like the animated sheet music....thaks for that Seán.

Re: Jazz - What's your bag, man?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:04 am
by Diapason
Brilliant, Seán!

Re: Jazz - What's your bag, man?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:16 am
by Diapason
I'll tell you something else, those videos are a great reminder of what a blunt tool musical notation really is. It's amazing to see music I know so well written down and losing nearly all the nuance in the translation. It really makes me wonder about the performance of classical music from the baroque period, for example, where some styles and conventions were just understood and not notated. How close are we getting to what the composer had in mind at all at all?

Still, none of that matters really. Back to jazz!

Re: Jazz - What's your bag, man?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:55 pm
by markof
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What a record!

Re: Jazz - What's your bag, man?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:47 pm
by fergus
Diapason wrote:I'll tell you something else, those videos are a great reminder of what a blunt tool musical notation really is. It's amazing to see music I know so well written down and losing nearly all the nuance in the translation. It really makes me wonder about the performance of classical music from the baroque period, for example, where some styles and conventions were just understood and not notated. How close are we getting to what the composer had in mind at all at all?

Still, none of that matters really. Back to jazz!

A critical point I agree as each performance was most likely dictated by all of the accepted conventions of performances of the time coupled I would also suggest with minimal rehearsal time.

Re: Jazz - What's your bag, man?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:31 pm
by Seán
fergus wrote:
Diapason wrote:I'll tell you something else, those videos are a great reminder of what a blunt tool musical notation really is. It's amazing to see music I know so well written down and losing nearly all the nuance in the translation. It really makes me wonder about the performance of classical music from the baroque period, for example, where some styles and conventions were just understood and not notated. How close are we getting to what the composer had in mind at all at all?

Still, none of that matters really. Back to jazz!

A critical point I agree as each performance was most likely dictated by all of the accepted conventions of performances of the time coupled I would also suggest with minimal rehearsal time.
A wee anecdote for you: Ellington wrote music in cars, buses, trains, planes and in the recording studios, usually as his musicians were setting up or taking a break. Quite often his copyist wouldn't have had time to write out the music for the different sections, this always posed problems for new members and in particular for someone taking over the lead trumpet chair as they were unfamiliar with his practises, Ellington's music wasn't always written down, it never suffered and sounded fresh and vibrant as a result, but I digress.

Re: Jazz - What's your bag, man?

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:35 pm
by tweber
markof wrote:Image

What a record!
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Listening to this last night , great recording

Re: Jazz - What's your bag, man?

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:31 am
by fergus
Seán wrote:
fergus wrote:
Diapason wrote:I'll tell you something else, those videos are a great reminder of what a blunt tool musical notation really is. It's amazing to see music I know so well written down and losing nearly all the nuance in the translation. It really makes me wonder about the performance of classical music from the baroque period, for example, where some styles and conventions were just understood and not notated. How close are we getting to what the composer had in mind at all at all?

Still, none of that matters really. Back to jazz!

A critical point I agree as each performance was most likely dictated by all of the accepted conventions of performances of the time coupled I would also suggest with minimal rehearsal time.
A wee anecdote for you: Ellington wrote music in cars, buses, trains, planes and in the recording studios, usually as his musicians were setting up or taking a break. Quite often his copyist wouldn't have had time to write out the music for the different sections, this always posed problems for new members and in particular for someone taking over the lead trumpet chair as they were unfamiliar with his practises, Ellington's music wasn't always written down, it never suffered and sounded fresh and vibrant as a result, but I digress.

I don't think that you digress very far as it is also another important point Seán that at the time I believe that a certain amount of improvisation was required. I don't think this would be to the extent of free jazz today but I still believe that it would be expected of the musicians of the time.

Re: Jazz - What's your bag, man?

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:01 pm
by markof
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Back listening to this again, a really exceptional disk, jazz, rock, pop and more than a pinch of something else.
Treat yourself.
Mark

Re: Jazz - What's your bag, man?

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:07 pm
by fergus
Earlier, on vinyl....


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