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Re: MQN

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:23 pm
by tony
sbgk wrote:
Clive101 wrote:Hi sbgk

What's the latest on getting a 24 bit version that works for us with 24 bit only DACs please?

Thanks
Clive
real life has intervened.
Well that is ok it can happen every now and then. one assumes you are working on a 24bit version of 2.66 v2 sure once you get it right all is ok!

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:32 am
by Sligolad
jesuscheung wrote: sounds like same bug i have.

do this:
bcdedit /set disabledynamictick on

restart machine. may fix it. good luck
Tried it but no noticeable improvement JC.

I have come to the conclusion that all the recent improvements have shown up some music I though were OK recordings to no longer be so.
Tried everything from software to hardware and OS and OS Drive changes to tame some of what I was hearing with no luck.
I went and started listening to some music I had not listened to in a while and discovered music with no nasties and sounding amazing so I have to reassess my collection.
Happy again with the system and the sound but I will have to be a bit more careful in music selection.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:45 pm
by Aleg
I just noticed an new version of mqncontrol has been uploaded called mqncontrol.exe 2 core 1024

Does anyone know what it is supposed to do differently?

Cheers

Aleg

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:17 pm
by sbgk
Aleg wrote:I just noticed an new version of mqncontrol has been uploaded called mqncontrol.exe 2 core 1024

Does anyone know what it is supposed to do differently?

Cheers

Aleg
use it with mqnplay.exe 2.71 1024 - it plays 16/44.1 using 1024 sample buffer = 4096 Bytes = 1 page.

Seems to make a big difference to everything, much livelier sound. Shall do a 4 core version, but am working on the 24 bit version first.

the hirez version uses 1024 samples already, it was just the 16/44.1 that used 2048 before.

So the question is is it the sample size that makes a difference or the size of buffer in bytes.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:46 pm
by Aleg
sbgk wrote:
Aleg wrote:I just noticed an new version of mqncontrol has been uploaded called mqncontrol.exe 2 core 1024

Does anyone know what it is supposed to do differently?

Cheers

Aleg
use it with mqnplay.exe 2.71 1024 - it plays 16/44.1 using 1024 sample buffer = 4096 Bytes = 1 page.

Seems to make a big difference to everything, much livelier sound. Shall do a 4 core version, but am working on the 24 bit version first.

the hirez version uses 1024 samples already, it was just the 16/44.1 that used 2048 before.

So the question is is it the sample size that makes a difference or the size of buffer in bytes.

Sbgk

Thanks for the explanation.
I had overlooked there is indeed also an equivalent mqnplay version.

Focus on the 24-bit first there is a lot want for that, the Sse4 can come later.

Cheers
Aleg

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:34 pm
by nige2000
sbgk wrote:
Aleg wrote:I just noticed an new version of mqncontrol has been uploaded called mqncontrol.exe 2 core 1024

Does anyone know what it is supposed to do differently?

Cheers

Aleg
use it with mqnplay.exe 2.71 1024 - it plays 16/44.1 using 1024 sample buffer = 4096 Bytes = 1 page.

Seems to make a big difference to everything, much livelier sound. Shall do a 4 core version, but am working on the 24 bit version first.

the hirez version uses 1024 samples already, it was just the 16/44.1 that used 2048 before.

So the question is is it the sample size that makes a difference or the size of buffer in bytes.
2.71 1024 is real good

i suppose its only comparable to 2.71 v1 to which it is much better
tried 24 192 on 2.71 1024 vs 2.71 v2
thought 1024 may be the smallest little livelier, did you change anything else in there

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:43 pm
by sbgk
for 24 192 it uses the same code as 2.71 intel, so they should sound the same.

the main difference will be heard on 16 bit material again compare with 2.71 intel which uses the same code, but 2048 sample size for 16 bit.

think the sound is nicer with 1024, v2 was a bit harsher.

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:12 pm
by nige2000
sbgk wrote:for 24 192 it uses the same code as 2.71 intel, so they should sound the same.

the main difference will be heard on 16 bit material again compare with 2.71 intel which uses the same code, but 2048 sample size for 16 bit.

think the sound is nicer with 1024, v2 was a bit harsher.
possibly

given up on the raw?

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:14 pm
by Aleg
mqncontrol 1024 + mqnplay 1024 is a very nice combination, good sense of space and a pleasant warmth to the sound.

mqncontrol 4 core affinity + mqnplay win8.1-R2 raw background (my other favourite), has a bit more directness to the sound, display somewhat more detail as if one is sitting more closely to the instrument and therefore hearing more (and maybe giving the impression of somewhat harsher) overtones.
I think this is generally the difference between 2 core and 4 core versions.

I could easily live with either of them

Cheers

Aleg

Re: MQN

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:30 pm
by sbgk
Aleg wrote:mqncontrol 1024 + mqnplay 1024 is a very nice combination, good sense of space and a pleasant warmth to the sound.

mqncontrol 4 core affinity + mqnplay win8.1-R2 raw background (my other favourite), has a bit more directness to the sound, display somewhat more detail as if one is sitting more closely to the instrument and therefore hearing more (and maybe giving the impression of somewhat harsher) overtones.
I think this is generally the difference between 2 core and 4 core versions.

I could easily live with either of them

Cheers

Aleg
I think I'll make raw, background etc a configurable option.

1024 is the most pleasant experience I've had listening to MQn (computer audio period), the vocals and mids are great and no harshness, bass is there too.