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Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:00 pm
by fergus
Jared wrote:Sean, that's a fabulous evening's music you've treated yourself to... :-))

I'm now signing out (of both sites) for the next nine days... but am taking my three Mahler boxsets with me, so I'll let you know how I get on, on about 27/28th July...

take care, everyone...
Best wishes Jared and enjoy both adventures!!!

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:02 pm
by fergus
RVW – A Sea Symphony: Boult compared with Haitink....

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I sat and listened to both of the above versions of The Sea Symphony for a critical evaluation and comparison of both. The Haitink version is a much more bright and modern one and as a result the orchestra has a greater presence and therefore has more impact. However, as the Boult was recorded in 1954 (mono) and Haitink in 1989 (stereo) one has to take into consideration 34 years of improved recording technology to be fair. I also thought that Haitink’s vocalists (especially the soprano) were much more controlled and thereby more rewarding to my ear.
Upon repeated listening the differences between the two versions turned out to be more subtle than substantial and I fear that initially I did a considerable injustice to both the work itself and to Boults interpretation. I have now revised my attitude on both counts; consider me suitably chastened! I still prefer the Haitink version but the Boult version was not nearly as bad as I had previously intimated.

I am immediately reminded of a recent comment by THEHORN on another thread (paraphrased here) that unfamiliarity breeds contempt. My third listen within a week has revealed an appreciation that I did not believe was possible after my first hearing; whether that is due to hearing the Haitink version, repeated listening or a critical assessment of both versions I do not know....possibly a combination of all of them.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:42 am
by Seán
Jared wrote:Sean, that's a fabulous evening's music you've treated yourself to... :-))

I'm now signing out (of both sites) for the next nine days... but am taking my three Mahler boxsets with me, so I'll let you know how I get on, on about 27/28th July...take care, everyone...
Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:38 am
by fergus
JSB – Two Cantatas, BWV107 & BWV 187 for the Seventh Sunday after Trinity....

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Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:15 pm
by fergus
Vivaldi: Dixit Dominus di Praga RV595....

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This was a really lovely version of the Dixit Dominus RV595. The Prague Chamber Orchestra plays very well with a nice light touch. The soloists are very agreeable and the choir are also very good, ethereal in places.
The CD also contains two very fine versions of the Salve Regina, RV617 & RV618.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:10 pm
by DaveF
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Not really one of my favorite versions of the M9. I'd put the Bernstein/BPO, Barbirolli and Rattle versions ahead of this one by a considerable distance. Cant quite put my finger on it but something with the sound balance just doesnt agree with me here.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:04 pm
by mcq
I've been listening today to one of Shostakovich's greatest masterpieces, his 24 Preludes and Fugues, as played by Vladimir Askkenazy and available on Decca. The greatest tribute I can pay to this astonishing piece of music is that it deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as its inspiration, Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier (in much the same way as Beethoven's Diabelli Variations can be compared to Bach's Goldberg Variations). The benchmark recording for this piece is its dedicatee Tatiana Nikolayeva's first recording on Olympia (now available very inexpensively on Regis), but Ashkenazy's approach - in which he favours a very cool objectivity as opposed to Nikolayeva's more intimate, primal and rawer interpretation - is very satisfying to my ears. Ultimately, I prefer Nikolayeva's emotionalism but Ashkenazy's restraint pays rich dividends as well. I'm looking forward to hearing Alexander Melnikov's new version on Harmonia Mundi which is winning rave reviews.

I also listened to Paul Crossley's beautiful performances of Ravel's complete solo piano works today. In my opinion, this is some of the most subtly rewarding music of all but it does take time to fully sink in. Pieces like Gaspard de la Nuit, Valses nobles et sentimentales, Sonatine, Jeux d'eau and Le Tombeau de Couperin are some of the greatest masterpieces of the piano reportoire, in my opinion. Paul Crossley recorded these works for CRD in the early 1980s and they are currently available on Brilliant Classics coupled with Gordon Fergus-Thompson's very fine traversal of the complete Debussy solo piano works for a truly givewaway price. Crossley is by no means a "star" pianist and, whilst he does not penetrate these works as deeply as Argerich or Pogorelich, these are rewarding performances of undeniably difficult music in which he remains continually alert to all of Debussy's intricate melodic nuances.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:07 pm
by fergus
JS Bach: Organ Works / Helmut Walcha....

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Disc 1 contains Six Sonatas BWV525-530 which contains some wonderful music that is simple and direct. I am not competent to comment on the playing of Walcha but it sounds very fine indeed to me. The touch seems very light and the articulation is very clear. The texture of all three voices i.e. the right hand, left hand and pedals are all very clear and distinct. Given that the recordings date from 1947-1952, the sound shows its age in places but is very good indeed.
There are a multitude of varying sounds derived from the two different instruments used and this helps to keep one’s interest and attention.
The music making was never staid and was infused with infectious rhythms in the allegro passages. This was a thoroughly enjoyable listening session.

Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:36 am
by fergus
Haydn - String quartets Op. 17 Nos. 1 & 2....

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Re: What are you listening to?

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:36 pm
by Seán
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Gustav Mahler
Symphony No. 2 Resurrection

Eteri Gvazava, soprano,
Anna Larsson, contralto
Orfeón Donostiarra
Lucerne Festival Orchestra
Claudio Abbado conducting


This is a truly gorgeous rendition of Mahler's Marvelous Musical Masterpiece
MAHLER: Symphony No. 2 in C minor "Resurrection." DEBUSSY: La Mer.
Eteri Gvazava, soprano; Anna Larsson, contralto; Orfeón Donostiarra; Lucerne Festival Orch/Claudio Abbado, cond.
DEUTSCHE GRAMMOPHON B0003397 (2 CDs) (F) TT: 45:01 & 60:29

The Lucerne Festival Orchestra on these two DG discs is not the ensemble that played for August festivals on the Swiss lakeside from 1938 through 1993, whose corps-group was the Suisse Romande of Geneva, supplemented by free-lance (or off-season) players from various European orchestras. This one, in 2003, had as its nucleus the Mahler Chamber Orchestra, alumni of the Gustav Mahler Youth Orchestra founded by Claudio Abbado in 1986 (godfather as well of the Chamber Orchestra of Europe, in addition to his duties at La Scala, Milan, and later on as Karajan’s successor with the Berlin Philharmonic for 12 years, through the 2000-2001 season). A stellar array of players joined Abbado and the Mahler Chamber Orchestra in 2003 for the Lucerne Festival Orchestra on these discs in live performances: the concertmaster, first trumpet and principal flutist, Emmanuel Pahud, of the Berlin Philharmonic; clarinetist Sabine Meyer (a BPO alumna) and her woodwind ensemble, three members of the superlative Hagen-family String Quartet, cellist Natalia Gutman, still more Berliners – players whose names are printed in the booklet along with texts for the Mahler Second Symphony, more likely familiar to European listeners than stateside buyers.

The layout on these discs is both intelligent and space-conscious, although the lead-off La Mer of Debussy – just nine years newer than the Mahler of 1896 – sounds incontestably more “modern.” Abbado’s timing is 24:04, a shade slower than Guido Cantelli’s Testament version with the Philharmonia Orchestra in the finale, roughly the same there as Fritz Reiner’s with the Chicago Symphony on RCA/BMG, and Victor de Sabata’s with the Santa Cecilia Orchestra also on Testament (the major difference between them is Reiner’s elongated opening movement, by more than a minute-and-half). Following applause and a pause, the “Totenfeier” first movement of Mahler plays alone as Mahler instructed at a very brisk 20:43, which gives it a coherence – created by Abbado’s uncanny continuity of tension in the silences between sections of an exceedingly sectional movement. The composer wanted several minutes of audience digestion before the symphony’s other four movements (the last three conjoined by the instruction “attacca” after 3 and 4). But let me finish La Mer before delving into details of this Mahler.

There were two weeks of sectional rehearsals in Lucerne before the orchestra assembled in toto, during which associations were renewed or new ones forged, and a unifying tonal blend was achieved, more often not with Abbado listening in despite the fragility of his health (he lost his entire stomach to cancer in the recent transition between centuries). Beckmessers with noses in the score (but not ears automatically attuned) have contested details in Abbado’s reading, but he is a master conductor of Debussy – how interesting, to put it mildly, that the best Debussy on discs has been willed to us by Italian rather than French conductors (and I am as aware as any Francophile of performances by Monteux, Paray and Munch). But Toscanini led off – although I don’t have any of his La Mer recordings, commercial or live, in my collection – followed chronologically by De Sabata, Cantelli and Abbado. The only major exceptions to what seems almost a rule were Reiner (not least for the 1960 Chicago Symphony’s superlative playing in a Richard Mohr/Lewis Layton recording) and Karajan with the Berlin Phil – their 1964 version, however, not a remake also on DG.

The playing on DG’s Lucerne set has breathtaking moments when the winds have a simultaneity of tonal purpose that makes one skip back just to savor their oneness as well as the beauty of sound. Abbado’s is characteristically a performance that builds, and when it “flies” (his own verb) in the coda of La Mer one wishes there were SACD to add further sonic impact and clarity.

The Lucerne Cultural and Congress Center which opened in 1998 lacks optimal clarity with a capacity audience, and a degree of immediacy in Mahler’s massive outbursts during the “Aufersteh’n” finale of No. 2. The sound is powerful but sometimes coagulated, yet massively moving at the same time. This is Abbado’s third Mahler Second (his first in Chicago in the ‘70s lacked personality, and his next a decade later in Vienna suffered from an emotionally withdrawn quality). In terms of conception, cohesion and forward impulse this is his finest hour (actually 81:14). He doesn’t dawdle over the first movement, or make it so melodramatic that what follows sounds anticlimactic until the finale. The Andante is gemütlich without a cloying overlay of sentimentality, and the Scherzo progressively powerful and abrasive until the balm of “Urlicht” with Anna Larsson his soloist, as she was in the Third Symphony with the BPO, recorded in London by DG.

Soprano Eteri Gvazava – not a word of identification about her in the program book – is less steady on her entry in the finale but tames a vibrato in time for duets with Larsson. The Orfeón Donostiarra comes from Barcelona as I remember, with trumpet-voiced tenors, especially in the section “Hör auf zu beben! Bereite dich zu leben!” which is heart-stopping. There is never a question whether Abbado is in control, or in the throes of recreative inspiration – his nearness to death has become life-affirming in ways not always so forthright earlier in his career. Without hardening of the spirit or arteries, he has become authoritative in a way I didn’t always expect at certain junctures in past times. He is maestrissimo today among Italians of his generation, although British-born Antonio Pappano may become his successor in the future. But meanwhile, evviva Abbado and this listener’s thanks to DG/Universal for preserving a historic treasure.