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Re: Opera on DVD & Blu Ray

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:43 pm
by Jared
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Penguin-Opera-G ... 122&sr=1-4

Well, I've just gone and splashed out on this huge tome for a bargain price, which I hope will help enlighten me. Maybe if I take the time to read through the synopsis of each opera before watching, I might stand half a chance...

Re: Opera on DVD & Blu Ray

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:46 pm
by bombasticDarren
^^ Jared, my understanding is that LvB was basically uncomfortable with opera as a format hence his multiple revisions of Fidelio. It's little surprise that it was his only opera given it's difficult gestation and subsequent reception. I do like it though, but it doesn't have the easy charm of a Mozart, or the dramatic confidence of a Verdi. I wouldn't want to be without it.

Incidentally, I prefer the Klemperer recording

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Re: Opera on DVD & Blu Ray

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:52 pm
by fergus
bombasticDarren wrote:^^ Jared, my understanding is that LvB was basically uncomfortable with opera as a format hence his multiple revisions of Fidelio. It's little surprise that it was his only opera given it's difficult gestation and subsequent reception. I do like it though, but it doesn't have the easy charm of a Mozart, or the dramatic confidence of a Verdi. I wouldn't want to be without it.

Incidentally, I prefer the Klemperer recording

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I have also read somewhere that Beethoven was uncomfortable writing for the human voice.

The Klemperer is the only version that I have.

Re: Opera on DVD & Blu Ray

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:59 pm
by bombasticDarren
fergus wrote:
bombasticDarren wrote:^^ Jared, my understanding is that LvB was basically uncomfortable with opera as a format hence his multiple revisions of Fidelio. It's little surprise that it was his only opera given it's difficult gestation and subsequent reception. I do like it though, but it doesn't have the easy charm of a Mozart, or the dramatic confidence of a Verdi. I wouldn't want to be without it.

Incidentally, I prefer the Klemperer recording

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I have also read somewhere that Beethoven was uncomfortable writing for the human voice.

The Klemperer is the only version that I have.
For me, An die ferne Geliebte and Missa Solemnis are his only vocal 'masterpieces'

I think the fourth movement of the 9th Symphony is the weakest of the four too!

Re: Opera on DVD & Blu Ray

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:07 pm
by Jared
^^ thank you for your thoughts, Gents... I'm not sure how much I would want an audio only version... watching the plot unfold visually seems to me to be more rewarding at this stage.

Re: Opera on DVD & Blu Ray

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:10 pm
by Jared
bombasticDarren wrote:For me, An die ferne Geliebte and Missa Solemnis are his only vocal 'masterpieces'

I think the fourth movement of the 9th Symphony is the weakest of the four too!
his Mass in C and Christ on the Mount of Olives are both fine enough, but I don't think you'd call either 'masterpieces' either...

Re: Opera on DVD & Blu Ray

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:42 pm
by fergus
Jared wrote:... I'm not sure how much I would want an audio only version... watching the plot unfold visually seems to me to be more rewarding at this stage.
Interestingly, I am the complete opposite....trust me!!!

Re: Opera on DVD & Blu Ray

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:31 am
by Jared
fergus wrote:
Interestingly, I am the complete opposite....trust me!!!
I trust you implicitly Fergus... ;-) Seriously, I used to watch quite a lot of Shakespeare in my younger days, so it's not an altogether alien concept, but I've never been able to engage myself musically with the operatic style. I don't know whether I'll ever be an opera lover like Pepe, no matter how hard I try, but it is something I'm going to have a go at overcoming.

Re: Opera on DVD & Blu Ray

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:33 am
by jaybee
I look at my fear of opera like I would look at my fear of falling of a very tall building....! Perfectly natural and something I should probably trust my instincts about!

Re: Opera on DVD & Blu Ray

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:35 am
by Jared
jaybee wrote:I look at my fear of opera like I would look at my fear of falling of a very tall building....! Perfectly natural and something I should probably trust my instincts about!
my fear is something rather akin to yours, but I've deluded myself that by the time I pass the 23rd floor, I might have learnt how to sprout wings...