MQN

[jrling]

It's possible that adapting something like MQn to run natively on a Wandboard or similar would be doable (there's a group adapting it to run LMS, I think).

But unless there will be a dedicated OS that does no other thing than playback audio, one will never achieve the optimum.
A dedicated OS will probably have to be created by oneself as firmware for a SOC or DSP-chip?!

This is exactly what I think will be needed at some stage - if SBGK wanted to move from Windows OS - to make the next big leaps in SQ.

As DaveF said - "Windows is a bastard ....". It is a general purpose OS not best suited to audio players. It is used for convenience and because most people have it.

Personally I would willingly sign up to a hardware platform and specific OS, if it delivered astounding SQ. I am sure that solutions could be made for less money than it costs to build an audiophile PC.

Anyone else share my view?

Jonathan

[jrling]

However, MQn Player seems to have started as an exploration of what is possible on the Windows platform (given it's generally available and easier to use for most people). Certainly most of the early comparatives were with JPlay and other Windows player software.

My own experiments with Linux yielded a sound on a par with a good one pc Jplay set up, nothing exceptional even with dedicated Linux builds. Daphile (LMS on Debian iirc) came closest.

I went a long way with MPDPup on Linux. Puppy Linux is stripped down aimed at audio playing. But the player is MPD. Open source and not highly developed like MQn. It was quite good but not anywhere as good as MQn.

MQn on Puppy Linux though would stand a chance of being better than MPDPup definitely. But Linux is v unfriendly, so it would have to be materially better than MQn on Windows. For me anyhow

Jonathan

[DaveF]

"how can be possible that the files played strait from C drive and "renamed", can sound better the same files in their regular folders and with full name". To me that is another big difference.

If you rename and add a "_even_better" to the end of the filename, then it should sound even better again.

lol........for FUCK sake!

[Fran]

I tried a linux distro a while back - I can't remember right now what it was called, but it was a dedicated audio one. I felt it was way behind W7/jplay (dual boot setup) with the same PC/DAC etc. I was disappointed at the time and have since abandoned linux for that reason.

To me, the differences in the last few MQn version has been smaller (and I'm only up to 2.61). I wonder if the point of diminishing returns is now being met (allowing for sgbks post about the large memory file).

I agree a meet up might be a good idea...


Fran

[nige2000]

BrilliantDaveF"]

"how can be possible that the files played strait from C drive and "renamed", can sound better the same files in their regular folders and with full name". To me that is another big difference.

If you rename and add a "_even_better" to the end of the filename, then it should sound even better again.

lol........for FUCK sake![/quote]

Cool a proper a-b x test

Brilliant
bet ya daves testing it now
and coming back with the good news

a is better than b and couldnt even recogise the track with x

Damn it ill try anything at this stage
most of this doesnt make sense

[Aleg]

Cool a proper a-b x test

Brilliant
bet ya daves testing it now
and coming back with the good news

a is better than b and couldnt even recogise the track with x

Damn it ill try anything at this stage
most of this doesnt make sense

Nigel

On the JPlay forum it was said that .wav in the root directory of the disk (so name at all !!) was sounding best.
Never tried it though 'cause I don't find it practical, but people have developed small scripts to copy selected file to root like this and start Jplay.

Easy enough to try though.

Cheers

Aleg

[LowOrbit]

I tried a linux distro a while back - I can't remember right now what it was called, but it was a dedicated audio one. I felt it was way behind W7/jplay (dual boot setup) with the same PC/DAC etc. I was disappointed at the time and have since abandoned linux for that reason.

To me, the differences in the last few MQn version has been smaller (and I'm only up to 2.61). I wonder if the point of diminishing returns is now being met (allowing for sgbks post about the large memory file).

I agree a meet up might be a good idea...


Fran

Fran

Can I urge you to try 2.63? It hasn't been a small step in my system.

Mark

[nige2000]

Cool a proper a-b x test

Brilliant
bet ya daves testing it now
and coming back with the good news

a is better than b and couldnt even recogise the track with x

Damn it ill try anything at this stage
most of this doesnt make sense

Nigel

On the JPlay forum it was said that .wav in the root directory of the disk (so name at all !!) was sounding best.
Never tried it though 'cause I don't find it practical, but people have developed small scripts to copy selected file to root like this and start Jplay.

Easy enough to try though.

Cheers

Aleg

i remember

just trying to lighten the mood

most agreed too

[Aleg]

+1 on 2.63

Incredibly moving and emotive sound, good and credible deep bass lines.
Lots of detail and good set set of overtones.

A somewhat more forward presentation than previous versions, but in a way I can still like ( I'm not too fond of a very forward presentation).

I like this very, very much

Thank you sbgk

Cheers

Aleg


PS
If you want to hear some beautifully recorded cello solo work listen to
Prokofiev - Sonata for cello solo in C sharp minor, Op. 134 (completed by Vladimir Blok)
On the CD Prokofiev - Complete works for cello & piano by Alexander Ivashkin & Tatyana Lazareva

[cvrle59]

"On the JPlay forum it was said that .wav in the root directory of the disk (so name at all !!) was sounding best."

I learned to believe to anything in this world when digital music is played from computer, but can someone explain to me what the difference is if the file is in root or not. As far as I understand, the file could be anywhere on the media (HD, SSD, whatever) even broken into segments spread around that media on different sectors. It depends how that media is used, and how long. Isn't it part of the system, segmentation, which is used to move things around and group them to make system more efficient. If the file is in the root or somewhere else, it effects only the file header. If you copy file from one location to another one in the same media, you just change the file header, but physical data does not move at all. Or even more sophisticated, if you change the file name. What do you actually change, just a filed in file header. Again, I am "forced" to believe, but I still think that we sometimes go too far in all this. I was listening last night Led Zep #1 (for the first time with MQn). My body was sleeping already, but I just enjoyed the music so much that didn't want stop until I heard the last note off of it. I repeated the same thing this morning, whit no change in my system. I did not even get close to my enjoyment from last night. IMO, there so much subjective and non-mensurable, when we talk about music, that it is hard to understand it all.
BTW, I am very confused with all these findings.