The ethics of hifi

[Diapason]

I came across a good one yesterday while reading about pros and cons of particular valve amp designs. One of the cons was the ethical consideration of amps that run hot and inefficiently, thereby using excessive amounts of power. Not very green and all that.

Do you feel guilty when the valves are a-cookin'? :)

[DaveF]

feelin guilty Simon cos you got two big monos?

The more valves, the hotter they run, the brighter they glow, the better the sound, right? :)

[Diapason]

Hey that's my view, and trust me when I say I feel ZERO guilt about it. Well, until I see the leccy bill...

[Fran]

Zero conscience on this one....


[rant]my pet hate is the bad organisation of recycling and the green agenda in general. You get in your car and drive 10 miles to recycle some glass bottles, which are then carried by a truck burning diesel, then are heaped in a warehouse with a loading shovel using diesel, then washed, ground.... using diesel and so on, so on, so on. How can it be green to be doing this!![/rant]


Jaysus I feel better now!!

[Diapason]

This is a horrible sweeping generalisation I know, but it seems to me that the green agenda in this country is about giving a certain type of right-on middle-class person the opportunity to feel smug. It's certainly NOT about being green per se, it's about thinking you're being green. You know what I mean: the sort of person who buys a new car every year, but who makes sure it's REALLY efficient or, even better, a hybrid.

Back in my childless days, when a friend berated me for not composting my teabags or some other trifle, I annoyed him greatly by telling him that his choice to have 3 kids would create far more of a strain on the resources of the planet than anything I was doing...

Now, of course that's not to say that there aren't some genuinely green-minded people out there, nor is it to say that the message is unimportant or anything of the sort. Far from it.

[Ivor]

the sort of person who buys a new car every year, but who makes sure it's REALLY efficient or, even better, a hybrid.

That really REALLY bugs me. Fair enough my planet raping 12 year old 2.8 V6 petrol (but still efficient) yoke might not exactly be green but it's a lot greener than a 12 D hybrid!

[Diapason]

That really REALLY bugs me. Fair enough my planet raping 12 year old 2.8 V6 petrol (but still efficient) yoke might not exactly be green but it's a lot greener than a 12 D hybrid!

Not to mention the 11 discarded cars used in the interim!

[Ivor]

That really REALLY bugs me. Fair enough my planet raping 12 year old 2.8 V6 petrol (but still efficient) yoke might not exactly be green but it's a lot greener than a 12 D hybrid!

Not to mention the 11 discarded cars used in the interim!

Quite. In case it needs to be mentioned... the most polluting phase of a cars life is its production and not the fuel it will burn in its life. Not to mention the production, disposal and intercontinental transport of batteries for these hybrids.

[tony]

How did a question of rampant valve burners ruining the plant turn into a plug for a 2.8 petrol megacar and an attack on children.
You guys should have a been politicians!

[Diapason]

How did a question of rampant valve burners ruining the plant turn into a plug for a 2.8 petrol megacar and an attack on children.
You guys should have a been politicians!

And if that's what you read from the above, you should have been a tabloid journalist!!