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John, I had expected that this thread might lead members to question some of the claims made by DAC manufacturers, the HiFi press, users etc.

Odd that it hasn't..

So what do you guys think of the findings? http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=151815&page=18 Here's a summation. OK, so another really enjoyable day in the company of Darren(Yeats), Chris(thebiglebowski) and Andrew(Accuphaseman). I'll keep this brief-ish. We started by measuring...

I have heard a number of DACs that sound different, when sighted. But when this view is expressed by anyone on PFM the stock quip is "did you do a blind test". Perhaps the new stock quip will be - did you calibrate the system/listener combination beforehand. Ah, good ol' Max- not a scient...

I don't really disagree with any of that on the face of it, Ivor. You know my feelings on this stuff: if you're enjoying what you're up to then it's the most ridiculous thing in the world to get het up over some keyboard warrior telling you you're wrong. This is, after all, meant to be fun, so find...

DaveF wrote: At the very least post some technical views as to why you think they cannot sound different.

But this is the thing, there is no evidence that they can sound different, none at all, anywhere, yet many still claim they do..

I just don't get why, personally.

Ivor wrote:

maxflinn wrote:


we've had a bit of a troll clear out recently so it might be best not to ask the same questions over and over again.

You mean that people who don't agree with the house views on all things digital were banned?

Derek wrote:OK I'll bite, why is there no proof?

Because there's no audible differences.

Ivor wrote:

maxflinn wrote:Do none of you guys wonder why there's no proof?

do you wonder why there's no trolls here?

It's a genuine question on most fora but I fear that on this forum it equates to trolling.

Do none of you guys wonder why there's no proof?

I don't mean subjective proof, as that's not proof, but scientific.

Some links would be ideal.

Thanks.